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Is it possible to install W8.1 as a trial.

  1. #11


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    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    All seems good so far. W8.1 installer is running.

    The installer objected to my screen resolution at first and refused to continue. I thought it had done that because the W7 install is "out of the box" with just the generic graphics driver installed. I've just whacked the resolution up to max with the generic and its allowed the installer to run. You learn a lot by doing

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  2. #12


    Are you launching the setup by running setup.exe? The Windows ISO is bootable. It should not matter whatsoever what is installed on the machine.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Are you launching the setup by running setup.exe? The Windows ISO is bootable. It should not matter whatsoever what is installed on the machine.
    This is something that puzzles me. I burned the first 32 bit version using Ashampoo (which I've used before to do ISO's) and when I tried booting from it wouldn't get recognised and the pc, after pausing for a couple of seconds would just carry on into the already installed Vista OS. No "press this any key to boot from the disc" message. So I ran the W8 x86 version from within Vista. No go. Has to be run from W7 or W8. Without changing anything in the Bios I pop the W7 Dell disc in and that boots straight off. Install W7 and reburn the ISO of W8 x64 this time using W7's own disc burner. Again, the W8 ISO seems non bootable for me. So I ran it from within W7 and its installed OK, however....


    I have a major stumbling block. All seems good apart from the fact that W8 won't recognise my wireless card. Its not showing in device manager at all and W8 reports no wireless settings are available. Its too late today to investigate but tomorrow I might see if I have a Vista driver for the Atheros card and see if that brings any joy. If not its game over, Acronis and back to Vista

    I was looking forward to play with W8.1 as well.
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  4. #14


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    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Further update on this. (its still not fixed though )

    I went back to square one and put the x86 ISO onto a USB drive using a free utility to make it bootable. So far so good, it booted OK and launched into the installer, however on the first reboot it simply went back to the start of the install procedure. I tried again and this time pounced when it rebooted and swiftly changed the boot order back to HDD. The install process continued perfectly and I have a clean W8.1 install.

    But still no wireless card detected. Grrr If I can't turn any fixes up for this then I might start a new thread on the problem. It is just not showing anywhere in device manager. I've set it to show hidden devices and still nothing.
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  5. #15


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Download the driver on another PC and put it on a thumb drive. Then run it on your PC that has no wireless card detected. For future reference a lot of PC's have a quick boot BIOS option. You can boot from an external device like a thumb drive that one time. On the next reboot it goes back to the default device automatically. It's great for doing install and diagnostics. On my laptop all I have to do is press the ESC key during boot up to get a one time boot menu.
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  6. #16


    Do you see devices in device manager with the yellow exclamation points?
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  7. #17


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Download the driver on another PC and put it on a thumb drive. Then run it on your PC that has no wireless card detected. For future reference a lot of PC's have a quick boot BIOS option. You can boot from an external device like a thumb drive that one time. On the next reboot it goes back to the default device automatically. It's great for doing install and diagnostics. On my laptop all I have to do is press the ESC key during boot up to get a one time boot menu.
    Thanks. That's really useful re the BIOS and rebooting. The only (and latest) driver for the Atheros is a Vista one which I grabbed direct from Acer (its an old Acer 9301 laptop).

    The wireless adapter still wasn't showing in device manager although the wireless LED is lit on the front, so on a hunch I manually "disabled" it (there is a separate Wireless on/off switch on the keyboard). I rebooted and then back to device manager to search for new hardware. This time it finds an unknown device... hmmm and it seems to be the Atheros adapter. So I try the Acer file with no joy. Next I go into manually finding compatible hardware in the driver tab and can actually bring up "Atheros 5005" but W8 still refuses to install the driver although it appears to actually attempt to. I've tried a few of the Atheros ones, the two 5005 variants and some more generic sounding ones but all come up with the same "code 31" failed to install. I've yet to Google that

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Do you see devices in device manager with the yellow exclamation points?
    At first I didn't. Only when I manually turned off the switch for the WLAN and then rebooted and manually searched for new hardware did it then show. Yes it has the yellow triangle.
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  8. #18


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    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    And another update... working

    Don't know what happened. I typed the reply above on another PC and the left the W8 sitting there. Looked for W8.1 drivers and found an unofficial Atheros site that looked half reputable. Downloaded driver and popped USB into W8 PC. At this point I notice the wireless symbol has changed to "connections available".


    Very very odd......
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  9. #19


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Was it connected to the Internet via a LAN cable? I never thought to suggest doing it, but it might have been the easiest way to get a driver for the WIFI adapter. Windows could have then looked online for a driver. Anyway it sounds like you have it working now and that's the main thing.
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  10. #20


    What is the make and model of your computer? If self built, what specific NIC do you have?
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