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How to install Windows 8 on machine with less than 1 GB RAM?

  1. #11


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    Let me know how it goes.

    I tried the same thing a couple of times.

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  2. #12


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    Awesome!!!

    Everything is working and just right now it is making first boot to 8. I had to move the boot files (manually and then bcdedit command) to the D: Windows 8 partition AFTER I placed a boot entry to it. When I tried to boot to 8 before moving the boot files there, it kept telling me that winload.exe is corrupt. I even tried copying my "good" winload.exe from this good Windows 8 PC I am on now and it did not work.

    I also marked the new D: partition as active with disk management, while in Windows 7.

    I will post more on it, hopefully with screenshots, when I am done.
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    Alright, I took a needed break from installing drivers, software and tweaking. This machine (laptop with broken screen attached to external CRT) is a 2.8 GHz (single core, single logical core) P4. It obviously is a little slow but I just know it is going to be faster than Windows 7 when I am done. 7 worked very good on it. The main problem with it is the HDD but it's just the family's internet machine anyway.

    It has ATI IGP 9000 graphics and now even has Aero!

    The reason it is still slower is because Windows 8 is now obviously near the outer edge of the HDD. When I am done with everything, I am going to delete the Windows 7 partition and then use Acronis to merge them both into 1. This way, all the operating system files will be near the beginning of the drive after a proper defrag.

    Drive F: in the screenshot is 4 GB Readyboost.

    Seems to be all good stuff. Thanks again for the method!
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  4. #14


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    Give Windows 8 a few reboots and it gets faster, at least, that is my subjective experience. I think that the disk optimizer has to move junk out of the way left by the expansion of the compressed wim, and then the NTFS can then utilize the files properly.

    Well done!

    Old laptops with broken screens make good servers - after all they have their own batteries which serve as a UPS if there's a power outage. And... they are quiet! I have an old Acer Travelmate with a broken screen with external Drives plugged in - just runs and runs. I now manage everything with remote desktop from my main Windows 8 machine. One thing about preview releases, It will be hard going back to XP on all these machines - that's why I invest some time with Windows Embedded 7 and now 8.
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    Yeah, I hear that for sure. I disable all that Windows auto stuff such as defrag or optimize and then just use 3rd party tools. The habit started long long ago with me when I used to rip music videos from tv for the scene. I would do everything under the sun to ensure that frames would not be dropped, so no auto anything starting while capture.

    I've gotten to know Windows so well that I literally go to almost all folders it makes and delete Eulas, readmes, included media such as in public folders, log files in various Windows folders like Inf, Software Distribution....you name it, I likely deleted it hahaha. (My first PC with Windows was given to me during Win98 first release, and it had only a 1 GB HDD! I had TI-99/4a and a 64 in the 80s though too, as a little kid.)

    One of these days I should make a .bat file. But anyway, it is partially the reason I am able to run Windows decently on very old hardware.

    How the heck did you ever figure this method out? Did you see it in Technet or something? I never knew this or even had a clue!
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    How the heck did you ever figure this method out? Did you see it in Technet or something? I never knew this or even had a clue!
    About a year ago, Microsoft released the ThinPC version of Windows 7, and from its branding it was clear that it was constructed from Windows Embedded packages, so I downloaded the CTP Windows Embedded Standard 7 Sp1 Toolkit and Image Builder Wizard, and started building my own WES7 systems, which run very much leaner than the full Windows 7. The evaluation systems produced run for 180 days, so with 5 rearms, that's over 2 years, unless they are timebombed in some other way. If an educational license can be had, the systems run for 365 days.
    Download: Windows Embedded Standard 7 SP1 Evaluation Edition - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details


    Microsoft kindly supply a lot on learning materials online in the MSDN resources including the 6 modules here:
    Embedded Development Tasks |OS Design OS Image Customization | Windows Embedded Standard 7 Top Tasks

    Just the Labs features in the modules - 5-10 minute videos of building systems - got me onto the fact that any install.WIM file in a Windows setup iso contains the full sysprepped image of the OS, and all it needs is to be applied to a suitable formatted partition or VHD.

    And boy is it painless and quick. On the same machine as the source wim, you have your OS up and running in about 30 minutes. If you like your setup, you can capture the image, using imagex again, and you have a full imaged backup, loaded apps and all.

    Just a day or so after the Windows 8 Consumer Preview was released, WES 8 CTP was too, but it is really slow and buggy - I haven't yet plugged together a system which works properly - compared to the WES 7 offering, which I'll stick to for the time being.
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    Thanks for the answer. Very interesting! My setup yesterday would have been even quicker but I didn't pay attention like I should have when creating the new partition. I made it logical. After installing using imagex and failing boot, I figured out quickly that I should have made it primary. Simple overlook on my part but with drastic unintended consequences lol.
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  8. #18


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    I'm not totally clear why your logical volume failed, as long as your system disk with Windows 7 is a primary active partition, all should be well. As you can see, most of my systems, including both Windows 8 (x86 and x64) are on logical volumes within an extended partition. To save space, each system writes its pagefile.sys to the Swap partition, so I save 2.5 GB on each system drive, which is why I am annoyed that Windows 8 has yet another swapfile, swapfile.sys, undocumented, unmoveable in the root of the system drive, and that, together with hiberfil.sys is necessary for fast booting. The way I'd have done it would be to write the hiberfil.sys and the swapfile.sys to the same drive as the pagefile, then delete the pagefile on shutdown. On startup I'd reverse the process, creating the new pagefile. In fact if I had a system reserved volume, I'd be tempted to write all of the swapfiles there, instead of the main Windows drive where all the logs, registry, temporary files and user files go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    which is why I am annoyed that Windows 8 has yet another swapfile
    Both of us annoyed at it, along with a good number of forum users here and in my Google search. I'm sure Microsoft has an excellent technical reason and it is useful to a portion of Windows users or maybe all, though.

    Yup, the machine I'm on now (my main, P4 3.5 GHz HT) - both Win7 and 8 use the first partition on the "faster" SATA300 attached to a suitable card, and take control of the (same) pagefile at boot. My other 2 HDDs are SATA150 attached to MB - one with 7 and one with 8.
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