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Install Win 8.1 Pro from new pc loaded with XP

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    Install Win 8.1 Pro from new pc loaded with XP


    I bought a new Dell desktop computer for work through IT department where I work.
    The system I bought came with Windows 8.1 Pro preinstalled, however since the company is still using Windows XP the technician just installed XP over the 8.1 pro.

    I would like to know if I can use this copy of Windows 8.1 Pro to install on my home computer since I know my IT department will never use Win 8 and we paid for that copy.
    If I can do that, how would I go if I don't have the Installation DVD and the product key. The tech says that it did not come with an installation DVD since the Windows 8.1 Pro was pre-loaded on the computer! Is that even possible, and how can I retrieve the product key of Windows 8.1 Pro. I read that the product key is embedded in the BIOS but how if they put XP over it? When I run Belarc, it only gives me the product key for XP.

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    Windows 8.0 x64


    If the machine is limited to work use why must you pay for it? If not, then why is it not possible to install XP as dual boot? Whoever the IT guy is, if he has a supervisor I'd talk it over with him. Sounds like the guy could just be doing what takes the least amount of work.

    I would inquire exactly what the conditions of this purchase are. Presumably they give you a discount since you can then do some work at home? I wouldn't just take the technician at his word. Talk to someone who may be willing to help you. If nothing else, putting an unsupported OS on the machine without W8 is leaving you in the cold if the PC has a problem.
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    All computers at work have to be ordered through IT dept since they have to install Novell on it. I am sure that IT will never support Windows 8.1 Pro, so I just want to know if I can get a hold of this license to put it in my home computer for personal use. I mean... what a waste of a license if nobody will use it. But my question is: Is this legit? and if yes, how can I retrieve the product key if IT installed XP over pre-loaded 8.1 Pro.
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    Windows 8.1, 10


    I think that the OEM version of Windows 8.1 on the PC is tied to that computer, and you can't transfer that licence to another computer.

    Also, it's possible that the XP version is 'using' the 8.1 licence through downgrade rights (although I'm not sure you can get from Windows 8.1 back down to XP)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabilly View Post
    All computers at work have to be ordered through IT dept since they have to install Novell on it. I am sure that IT will never support Windows 8.1 Pro, so I just want to know if I can get a hold of this license to put it in my home computer for personal use. I mean... what a waste of a license if nobody will use it. But my question is: Is this legit? and if yes, how can I retrieve the product key if IT installed XP over pre-loaded 8.1 Pro.
    No it's not legit. OEM keys are tied to the machine it is installed on - the only legit way to obtaining Windows 8 from your company is if they sell the machine to you
    I suspect this is the main reason M$ switched from the COA sticker to embedded bios keys, as anybody could go from desk to desk and copy the keys... using your argument that they will never be used as those Windows 7 machines were SLP activated anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    I think that the OEM version of Windows 8.1 on the PC is tied to that computer, and you can't transfer that licence to another computer.

    Also, it's possible that the XP version is 'using' the 8.1 licence through downgrade rights (although I'm not sure you can get from Windows 8.1 back down to XP)
    Can I call Microsoft and ask to transfer the license to another computer?
    I know for sure they did not use the 8.1 product key to downgrade to XP. They use a mirror image of XP with all the necessary apps on it.
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    Windows 8.1


    As stated by Superfly, an OEM key is only good on the original computer.
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    Thought I could get a copy of Windows 8.1 Pro, Oh well.
    Thank you all
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    Posts : 2,130
    Windows 8.0 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    As stated by Superfly, an OEM key is only good on the original computer.
    I'm not quite getting it. What PC was purchased by the OP? Is it the "home computer?" If it is then that would be the "same machine" the OEM license is for. Something doesn't make sense.
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    As stated by Superfly, an OEM key is only good on the original computer.
    I'm not quite getting it. What PC was purchased by the OP? Is it the "home computer?" If it is then that would be the "same machine" the OEM license is for. Something doesn't make sense.
    The way I read it, his employer bought him a new desktop PC which came with 8.1. The IT department then put XP on it. He or she now wants to install the now unused 8.1 Pro on their home PC, also a desktop PC. As the original install is almost certainly an OEM install its not allowed. He said "I bought" but I think the company actually paid for it.
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