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Factory OS vs clean install

  1. #11


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by gozoboy99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If you use fast startup your PC doesn't fully shut down. It goes into a hybrid sleep mode. That may actually slowly drain your laptops battery. I say may because I haven't confirmed it myself, just something to keep in mind and have a look at if you decide to use it. The other issue it can cause is access to the BIOS on boot up. I've seen many threads where users could not get into the BIOS on boot up with fast startup enabled. I have an SSD in my laptop and don't use fast startup, I don't see the benefit.

    When you get it and log in the first time "do not connect to the internet". If you do all the factory installed Metro Apps will be forever tied to your Microsoft live ID and be shown in the "Your Apps" section of the Windows Store. You might even ant to log in with a local account the first time. Then un install any apps you know you will never use before logging in with your live ID. My "Your Apps" section is littered with all the bloat Apps ASUS pre installed on my laptop.
    Thanks for that advice. Really helps. I'll do that. As for the slow-drain battery, I wouldn't be inclined to agree with you as the fast startup switches the hardware fully off. At least how I understand it, how it works is it closes all your applications and saves the system "shell" to the hyberfile.sys file, sort of a hybrid between hibernation and full shutdown. It then fully switches off the hardware like in hibernate. Meaning you could take the battery out of the laptop and it would boot from the hyberfile.sys like normal. I'll probably use the suggestion of trying with it on first, then if I run into issues switch it off.
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    This is off topic but I thought some might find it useful.
    I'll have to site down some evening and research it some. I disable hibernation from the command prompt as I don't use sleep or hibernation. That also deletes the hyberfile.sys file. I have a SSD so my laptop boots up in about 10 seconds even with fast startup turned off. I know hibernation doesn't drain your battery but I believe sleep will. Fast Startup is a hybrid sleep mode so I'm not sure if it does or not. That's why I mentioned it. Like I said though I guess I should read up on it so I actually know what I'm talking about.

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  2. #12


    Canada
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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gozoboy99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If you use fast startup your PC doesn't fully shut down. It goes into a hybrid sleep mode. That may actually slowly drain your laptops battery. I say may because I haven't confirmed it myself, just something to keep in mind and have a look at if you decide to use it. The other issue it can cause is access to the BIOS on boot up. I've seen many threads where users could not get into the BIOS on boot up with fast startup enabled. I have an SSD in my laptop and don't use fast startup, I don't see the benefit.

    When you get it and log in the first time "do not connect to the internet". If you do all the factory installed Metro Apps will be forever tied to your Microsoft live ID and be shown in the "Your Apps" section of the Windows Store. You might even ant to log in with a local account the first time. Then un install any apps you know you will never use before logging in with your live ID. My "Your Apps" section is littered with all the bloat Apps ASUS pre installed on my laptop.
    Thanks for that advice. Really helps. I'll do that. As for the slow-drain battery, I wouldn't be inclined to agree with you as the fast startup switches the hardware fully off. At least how I understand it, how it works is it closes all your applications and saves the system "shell" to the hyberfile.sys file, sort of a hybrid between hibernation and full shutdown. It then fully switches off the hardware like in hibernate. Meaning you could take the battery out of the laptop and it would boot from the hyberfile.sys like normal. I'll probably use the suggestion of trying with it on first, then if I run into issues switch it off.
    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    I use Wordweb.
    Free & easy to use pinned to taskbar.

    WordWeb: English dictionary, thesaurus, and word finder software.

    Attachment 39886

    This is off topic but I thought some might find it useful.
    I'll have to site down some evening and research it some. I disable hibernation from the command prompt as I don't use sleep or hibernation. That also deletes the hyberfile.sys file. I have a SSD so my laptop boots up in about 10 seconds even with fast startup turned off. I know hibernation doesn't drain your battery but I believe sleep will. Fast Startup is a hybrid sleep mode so I'm not sure if it does or not. That's why I mentioned it. Like I said though I guess I should read up on it so I actually know what I'm talking about.

    I do the same on my current laptop since it has an SSD... And here's a link to get you started on your research How Windows 8 Hybrid Shutdown / Fast Boot feature works - TechRepublic
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  3. #13


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    That was a good read, bookmarked it for reference.
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