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Windows 8 Migrate to SSD problems - SSD not booting

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    Windows 8 Migrate to SSD problems - SSD not booting


    Hi, I recently bought a Samsung 840EVO 240GB SSD to upgrade my mechanical HDD on my asus x202e laptop.

    I have the SSD hooked up via USB. Last night I attempted to clone the entire disk (Including the 300MB uefi partition, 900 MB recovery partition and of course the primary OS partition.)

    Here's a screen shot of diskmgmt>

    Click image for larger version

    What's interesting to me is my OS Partition on the HDD shows (Boot, Page File,ect) But my SSD OS Partition does NOT reflect this information.

    And here's a shot of how the EaseUS cloning software that I tired first.
    Click image for larger version

    After using this software to clone the entire disk I attempted to boot off the SSD by choosing it during the boot sequence. It will start to boot off the SSD (I can see the blue access lights on the USB connector showing activity) and then it will switch over to the HDD half way through the boot up. If I disable the HDD entirely in the BIOS Windows will attempt a "repair" and then it brings me to a menu to continue to Win 8.1, reboot,etc.

    If I hit continue it will just reboot and repeat. I'm almost certain something isn't right with the uefi/gpt settings.

    Tonight I bought paragon migrate to SSD that had a additional button to tick that I "thought" would get me past the issue I had with EaseUS. The button in Paragon that I checked is called "Create new EFI entry for destination drive".
    One of the major "caveats" that paragon warns you is that the "source" partition will no longer be bootable after the migration is complete.

    After cloning the disk over using Paragon I rebooted with my heart racing (You know!) and was skeptical it wouldn't work. Well, the exact same thing is happening with Paragon. I went into my Bios and tried the typical stuff (Disable fast boot/secure boot,etc) and nothing works to boot the SSD. I'm having the same issue I had with EaseUS. I was thinking the "Create new EFI entry for destination drive" in paragon would allow this to work. Unfortunately I spent $15 on software I didn't need. Oh well, at least it was cheap and the software does seem good! It clones quickly.
    Well, luckily I'm still able to boot off my "source" HDD so that's a relief. I had my WinPE bootable USB ready with diskpart utility in case I couldn't boot off the HDD.

    Well, I "think" I know what the issue is after getting into diskpart. I'm showing what appears to be two active partitions.

    Can someone let me know how to correct this? I was going to try Easy BCD but they want $20 for that software now. Their supposed to be a WinPE bootable USB disk paragon used to offer to correct EFI boot parameters but they no longer offer this from what I can tell.

    Here's what disk part shows.. Disk 0 is my HDD and Disk 1 is my SDD.

    Code:
    DISKPART> list disk
      Disk ###  Status         Size     Free     Dyn  Gpt
      --------  -------------  -------  -------  ---  ---
      Disk 0    Online          465 GB      0 B        *
      Disk 1    Online          232 GB   114 GB        *
    
    DISKPART> select disk 0
    Disk 0 is now the selected disk.
    DISKPART> list
    Microsoft DiskPart version 6.3.9600
    DISK        - Display a list of disks. For example, LIST DISK.
    PARTITION   - Display a list of partitions on the selected disk.
                  For example, LIST PARTITION.
    VOLUME      - Display a list of volumes. For example, LIST VOLUME.
    VDISK       - Displays a list of virtual disks.
    DISKPART> list disk
      Disk ###  Status         Size     Free     Dyn  Gpt
      --------  -------------  -------  -------  ---  ---
    * Disk 0    Online          465 GB      0 B        *
      Disk 1    Online          232 GB   114 GB        *
      Disk 2    Online           29 GB      0 B
    
    
    DISKPART> list partition
      Partition ###  Type              Size     Offset
      -------------  ----------------  -------  -------
      Partition 1    System             300 MB  1024 KB
      Partition 2    Recovery           900 MB   301 MB
      Partition 3    Reserved           128 MB  1201 MB
      Partition 4    Primary            185 GB  1329 MB
      Partition 5    Recovery           350 MB   187 GB
      Partition 6    Primary            258 GB   187 GB
      Partition 7    Recovery            20 GB   445 GB
    
    
    DISKPART> list partition
      Partition ###  Type              Size     Offset
      -------------  ----------------  -------  -------
    * Partition 1    System             300 MB  1024 KB
      Partition 2    Recovery           900 MB   301 MB
      Partition 3    Reserved           128 MB  1201 MB
      Partition 4    Primary            185 GB  1329 MB
      Partition 5    Recovery           350 MB   187 GB
      Partition 6    Primary            258 GB   187 GB
      Partition 7    Recovery            20 GB   445 GB
    So, it appears that Disk 0 partition 1 is the active partition. That's the 300 MB uefi partition. And here my SSD (Disk 1) info. I also see it has the same partition set as active.

    I would like to remove the Active partition from Disk 0 Partition 1. I believe Easy BCD could do this but I should be able to do it via diskpart. I tried some commands but it gave me some errors about MBR or something.

    Here's the output from the SSD.

    Code:
    DISKPART> select disk 1
    Disk 1 is now the selected disk.
    DISKPART> list partition
      Partition ###  Type              Size     Offset
      -------------  ----------------  -------  -------
      Partition 1    System             300 MB  1024 KB
      Partition 2    Recovery           900 MB   302 MB
      Partition 3    Primary            117 GB  1202 MB
    DISKPART> select partition 1
    Partition 1 is now the selected partition.
    DISKPART> list partition
      Partition ###  Type              Size     Offset
      -------------  ----------------  -------  -------
    * Partition 1    System             300 MB  1024 KB
      Partition 2    Recovery           900 MB   302 MB
    Thanks for any/all help!! Also, as any FYI I used my USB to boot up a live version of partition magic to initialize the SDD with GPT file system. I probably didn't need to do this but I want to eventually get dual boot on this. I would just like to get windows 8.1 working first. Thx

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    You will need to clone all 7 partitions, not just some.


    How to clone your SATA drive to a SSD drive.
    How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    I would probably remove the old hard drive and install the SSD in its place to test. If you cloned the Boot Information, it might still be pointing to the old install.

    The indications of System, Boot, etc. are on the fly. They indicate which partitions are currently serving that purpose.

    Edit: You also show the extra Recovery Partition (350 MB) that replaces the original one when you update to Windows 8.1. It becomes the working version and will also need to be migrated.
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    I would suggest that you use a partition manager such as Acronis Partition Manager Trial found at http://www.acronis.co.uk/homecomputi...rial_en-EU.exe

    This will enable you to do things a lot easier than Diskpart or easybcd

    Keith
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    Better use Paragon 14 - the trial version will do the job.

    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    You will need to clone all 7 partitions, not just some.


    How to clone your SATA drive to a SSD drive.
    How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.
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    Last edited by theog; 23 Dec 2013 at 19:21.
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    theog, thanks for your response on this. It's possible I might need to clone the 350 Recovery partition but I don't know why it would care about the D: partition that doesn't have any data or applications installed on it. It's just spare space I haven't used. It came this way from the factory. I intionally didn't load anything to it because I knew I wanted to upgrade to SSD. I don't know if GPT is specific with looking for all partitions that were previously created on my HDD?

    The paragon migrate to SSD software selected those 3 partitions by default. I'm assuming the software knows what partitions are needed to operate the OS but not 100%. I'm reviewing the link you provdided for their backup software.

    I'm probably going to load the paragon recovery software win PE build to USB and try their
    Boot Corrector allows the user to perform UEFI switch in order to define a bootable operating system in case of several OSs hosted on one UEFI machine.


    Saltgrass, thanks for this suggestion. I definitely would have tried to remove the HDD and install just the SDD if it was easy. This laptop case requires a bit of effort to remove and I haven't done it yet. I might give that a shot to see if that works but I'd like to get this booting off the SSD externally if possible. Thx for the info on System, Boot,etc. That makes sense. I'll probably attempt to just clone/migrate the Recovery Partition (350 MB) over to the SSD to see if that helps.

    I'll report back if/when I find a solution. Never thought this would be such a PITA. I would have used the migrate software that came with the SSD if I had an optical disk drive.

    kaybee327, I'll also look into that software.

    Thx Win8 users!
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    If you are going to delete the Recovery Partition, Have you made the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Disks?

    information   Information

    We always assume you have made your Recovery Disks using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Media Creator app the first day you had your new PC.
    & made the Startup Repair CD. (Windows 8 only)
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
    System Repair Disc - Create in Windows 8 (Windows 8 only)




    I would recommend you making the OEM manufacturer's Recovery DVD's or USB drive.
    To make ASUS Recovery disk download BACKTRACKER.

    http://www.asus.com/supportonly/ASUS...rt_Download_36

    Quote Originally Posted by ASUS
    Using the Support DVD to restore system recovery.

    About the Support DVD :
    The Support DVD includes an image of the operating system, installed on your system at the factory.
    or
    You can order the Microsoft official OEM Recovery disks from the ASUS OEM manufacturer's website.
    Essentio Recovery Software

    You can also use the Recovery disk to install to the SSD.
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    Thx OG. I'll look into creating that recovery to a USB drive before proceeding. I'll probably mess with it over the next few days when I have time. I'd rather not have to buy that $50 recovery CD. It mentioned it's for Essentio Desktop so I don't know if that would work on my asus x202e.

    I looked at Asus website and they recommend keeping the recovery partition. I'm not surprised since I wouldn't really be able to recover the OS without that partition.

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Troubleshooting X202E

    I might have to look into buying an external optical drive. Would make things quite a bit easier. Thansk again everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOSTEDI5 View Post
    Thx OG. I'll look into creating that recovery to a USB drive before proceeding. I'll probably mess with it over the next few days when I have time. I'd rather not have to buy that $50 recovery CD. It mentioned it's for Essentio Desktop so I don't know if that would work on my asus x202e.

    I looked at Asus website and they recommend keeping the recovery partition. I'm not surprised since I wouldn't really be able to recover the OS without that partition.

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Troubleshooting X202E

    I might have to look into buying an external optical drive. Would make things quite a bit easier. Thansk again everyone!
    If your system was originally win8 you would use Asus Backtracker to create a factory restore media. If you were originally win 7 Asus AI recovery will create factory restore media. Download from Asus support download clean install would be the best way to go. Clone hard drive to SSD is very easy using Macrium Reflect free edition
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