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    MS don't give any useful error messages now. "Something Happened " would be hilarious if it wasn't so annoyingly useless.

    At least you got a code. I think that means bcd stre is not configured/has missing information.

    We can find out.

    Startup repair makes a backup of bcd before repairing it. Just compare the backup with current bcd store to see the difference.

    It is in the "boot" folder, called BCD.Backup.0001

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    Has anybody tried it with Aomei Backupper?
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  3. #43


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    MS don't give any useful error messages now. "Something Happened " would be hilarious if it wasn't so annoyingly useless.

    At least you got a code. I think that means bcd stre is not configured/has missing information.

    We can find out.

    Startup repair makes a backup of bcd before repairing it. Just compare the backup with current bcd store to see the difference.

    It is in the "boot" folder, called BCD.Backup.0001

    For SSR Desktop Edition:
    Boots to Automatic Repair first.

    BCD.Backup.0001.zip

    BCD.zip
    Last edited by theog; 08 Nov 2013 at 19:02.
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  4. #44


    What really intrigues me is fact that after install of 8.1 that I can no longer restore 8.0 from image and get it to boot. I am restoring the EFI partitions and everything.

    I'm trying to imagine what a drive image restore is missing that manually installing 8.0 would catch. Like I said, once I manually loaded 8, I was able to restore my 8 image...no problem.
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  5. #45


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    Theog's BCD store backup seems to indicate it lost track of the System partition and the Windows partition and shows unknown for device and OS device which should show the System partition and the Windows partition. But opening it on my system may give erroneous readings.

    Is this thread now basically about the Paragon backup software? If it is, does that software have some setting concerning Partition IDs and whether to keep them the same or not?

    Theog appears to be using a Windows to Go install, so not sure if that would behave differently from a PC install.

    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device unknown
    path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-GB
    inherit {globalsettings}
    integrityservices Enable
    default {default}
    resumeobject {80500006-489e-11e3-99de-d1a82af1d5ba}
    displayorder {default}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 30

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {default}
    device unknown
    path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows 8.1
    locale en-GB
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence {80500008-489e-11e3-99de-d1a82af1d5ba}
    integrityservices Enable
    recoveryenabled Yes
    isolatedcontext Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice unknown
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {80500006-489e-11e3-99de-d1a82af1d5ba}
    nx OptIn
    bootmenupolicy Standard
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  6. #46


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    What really intrigues me is fact that after install of 8.1 that I can no longer restore 8.0 from image and get it to boot. I am restoring the EFI partitions and everything.

    I'm trying to imagine what a drive image restore is missing that manually installing 8.0 would catch. Like I said, once I manually loaded 8, I was able to restore my 8 image...no problem.
    Windows 8.1 back up has big problem.
    Latest Win 8.1 ISO "Breaks" System Image Functionality
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    @Saltgrass
    A Windows to Go was made on the test rig, therefore listed as a boot device in the UEFI/BIOS firmware.
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  8. #48


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltgrass
    Is this thread now basically about the Paragon backup software? If it is, does that software have some setting concerning Partition IDs and whether to keep them the same or not?


    Post 15

    Computer won't boot on Win8 UEFI restore - Wilders Security Forums

    Quote Originally Posted by Paragon Matt
    Currently the Paragon Software current versions are not supported for the 8.1 operating system, so if you are running into issues please be aware that you have the ability to back up the OS, but you may run into issues with other operations. There will be a new version released at the end of the month, which will support the 8.1 operating system.
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    Technical Support Engineer
    Irvine, CA 92618
    Website: PARAGON Software Group - partition manager, drive backup, hard disk partitioning
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  9. #49


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    It seems if you open a BCD store on another computer, it will show unknown as the actual partition in the store, so that part might be ok.

    I have noticed some problems with the Windows Image backup on my system with two independent installs. It seems there could be confusion as to which install is being backed up and which EFI partition should be used. I had the Windows 7 and Windows 8 images in the same WindowsBackupImage folder (different computer names) and the Windows 7 one looked normal, but the Windows 8 one only had one file. I received no error messages when I made the Windows 8 image. This does seem to happen during the creation of newer images over prior ones, but I am now putting the images on separate partitions to see if it corrects that situation.
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    @Theo, were you booted into Windows To Go to copy those bcd stores for us?

    Hard to tell what is wrong with the bcd.backup.0001

    Afaik, Paragon and the other thing Theog used have their own bcd editing systems, they don't use windows bcdedit.exe. If you use the windows install dvd /recovery drive, then it does use windows own bcdedit.

    Just a guess, but perhaps the 3rd party programs cannot access the 8.1 efi bcd store when running in boot time mode. Could be a strange permissions issue.
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