can i make an iso from an upgraded 8.1 installation?

neelakantanr

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hi all!

I originally had windows 8 prowmc licensed (I have the iso image for that in case I need to reinstall); I upgraded /updated from store free update; now I have a valid licensed 8.1 running; but I don't have an iso; and if I have to re-install, I have to install 8, activate it and again do a 3.5 gb download to update;

I read from DISM that I can make a install.wim image from the existing hdd OS partition; so is it possible to create an image for the existing 8.1 OS?

regards
neelakantan
 

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If you have access to another PC, running Windows 7, the process works as in the link given above. If you have Windows 8.1 already, the iso download will fail from the 8.1 system. It seems pointless reverting to Windows 8.0 again to do this download

One possibility may be to download the ISO using Windows 7 in a VM like VMWare Player. I think that the Virtual windows 7 machines here Cross-browser testing simplified | Testing made easier in Internet Explorer | modern.IE may be ok to use.

You need to run the Windows8setup.exe first, with your valid retail windows 8.0 upgrade key, exit out of it, then run the 8.1 websetupbox.exe download until it offers the choice to install later using an ISO or USB - select ISO and finish, or burn a DVD.

I shall attempt this tomorrow and inform you how it works or not.
 

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You can make an image of your current OS partition using DISM. That however, is not an .iso file. If you want to check that out, open an administrative command prompt and type

dism /?

I think it is a /capture-image option, but I am on a Windows 7 system right now and cannot check.

You could use the Windows imaging utility to capture an image to reinstall on a new hard drive if yours breaks, or a third party imaging software.
 

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    16 G
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    Kingston SSD 240 GB

thank you very much for pointing it again!
however, the problem I face is that I am not able to download the ESD /ISO folders as "can't connect at this moment" comes!
neelakantan

Yeah, I noticed that you had posted in that thread before creating this one.

I've been able to download the files on 3 separate Windows 8 machines using the same method.

Here's another thread on this topic:

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-upgrade-iso-download-create.html

You need to download the Win8 installer and Win8.1 installer and follow all steps in sequence. If it doesn't work then you're doing something wrong.
 

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    Intel Core i7 3970x
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    Asus Rampage IV Extreme
    Memory
    GSkill RipjawsZ 1600 MHz 32GB
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    Asus-Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan
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    Asus Xonar Essence STX
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    Viewsonic VP2365W 23" LCD professional monitor
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    1920x1080 (HD)
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    Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB SSD x 1
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    Logitech Performance MX
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    NIS 2014
Here's an update on downloading the Windows 8.1 Pro ISO 32-bit using a Windows 7 VMWare Player Virtual machine from Microsoft. It works without any problems. Your speeds will depend on your PC capabilities and Broadband speed - I have a pretty slow laptop, but reasonable broadband speeds typically 20-40Mbps over WiFi

I had already upgraded from 8 Pro to Windows 8.1 Pro via the Windows Store update, and there seemed to be no way to download the ISO under Win8.1 using the various methods described elsewhere on this Forum.

I downloaded VMWare player Player Version History | United States and installed it on Windows 8 -there are excellent tutorials available: Windows 8 Tutorials[2]=Virtualization

I mentioned in a post above that there are Microsoft VMs available from Cross-browser testing simplified | Testing made easier in Internet Explorer | modern.IE . I selected Windows as the desired testing OS, and VMWare as the virtualization platform, and IE8 Windows 7 as the 32-bit VM. (Annoyingly, there is no indication whether the VM will be 32- or 64-bit, except the size of the total download - bigger downloads are likely to be 64-bit, I guess.)

I downloaded IE8.Win7.For.WindowsVMWare.parts 1-4 VMWare WinRar executable. Takes about an hour to download and expand the archives, initialize the VM and update the VMTools on VMWare Player.


This Win7 VM is 32-bit, but it is an Enterprise version. (I will check later to see if there is a 64-bit version. The procedure for downloading a 64-bit ISO for Windows 8.1 will be identical to the 32-bit method, but times and filesizes will differ) Pro or Core versions will depend on the product key you have for Windows 8 - the ISOs contain a single image only. You will not download an Enterprise version here.


On the new VM, I downloaded Firefox beta and Chrome Canary Build, because I did not want to risk using IE8, without greater antivirus or malware protection. I did not want to go the whole route of setting up MSE and all the endless round of Windows and Microsoft updates on the VM that entails.


In the Win7 VM I went to Upgrade Windows with only a product key - Microsoft Windows Help


First tapped Install Windows 8, to download and run Windows8-Setup.exe. It asked for my Win8 upgrade key, and accepted it, and started the OS download. It was faster in the VM than using an installed Win7 - I had downloaded 3% before I managed to quit the setup!

This initializes files in the C:\Users\IEUser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WebSetup folder which are used by the Windows 8.1 to validate the Windows 8 product key you have supplied as if it were a valid Windows 8.1 product key.


I then tapped install Windows 8.1, downloaded and ran WindowsSetupBox.exe It also ran faster in the VM than in 64-bit Windows 7 home. It started at the estimating time and completed the download in about 12 minutes. Here are some landmarks in the websetup folders:


BIT39C0.tmp 8.34am 2048012 KB > WinPayload.esd 8.46.amm 2048012 KB > 3 more minutes to check the download >
WinPayload.esd.decrypt 8.49pm 2048012 KB > getting files ready as c:\ESD was unpacked (date of modification 9/30/2013 5:40 AM) > c:\ESD\Windows\Sources\Install.esd 9.06am 2031695 KB > select ISO image as media to save to >
c:\users\IEUser\Documents\Windows.iso 9.10am 2544768 KB

36 minutes start to finish.

Burn image to DVD if required (I did not do this) - I would not do this within the VM - I would transfer the ISO to my main system across the Virtual network and burn from there.
 

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    HP COMPAQ Presario CQ57
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    AMD E- 300 APU with Radion HD Graphics 1.30GHz
    Motherboard
    inbuilt
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio on-board
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    notebook
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    1366x768
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    Seagate ST9500325AS
    Google drive 15GB
    Skydrive 25GB
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    pretty good
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    inbuilt
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Internet Speed
    BT Infinity Unlimited - 80 up 20 down =70/16 really
    Browser
    Chrome Canary usually
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
Hi there
Don't also forget that you don't actually need to burn a physical DVD for Win 8 if you run from within Win 8 as it can mount virtual ISO's.

I'd go anyway to make the ISO on a USB stick -- quicker than a DVD and much more portable --unless your machine is VERY OLD it should be able to boot from a USB these days.

There's tutorials on the site on how to create a bootable USB from the ISO.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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hi all!

I originally had windows 8 prowmc licensed (I have the iso image for that in case I need to reinstall); I upgraded /updated from store free update; now I have a valid licensed 8.1 running; but I don't have an iso; and if I have to re-install, I have to install 8, activate it and again do a 3.5 gb download to update;

I read from DISM that I can make a install.wim image from the existing hdd OS partition; so is it possible to create an image for the existing 8.1 OS?

regards
neelakantan[/QUOTE

Did you ever get your DVD/USB windows 8.1 setup disk? If not, let me know, and I can give you a link for creating one directly from MICROSOFT for free and no download key needed.
 

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  • OS
    windows 8.1
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD
    Memory
    12GB
hi all!

I originally had windows 8 prowmc licensed (I have the iso image for that in case I need to reinstall); I upgraded /updated from store free update; now I have a valid licensed 8.1 running; but I don't have an iso; and if I have to re-install, I have to install 8, activate it and again do a 3.5 gb download to update;

I read from DISM that I can make a install.wim image from the existing hdd OS partition; so is it possible to create an image for the existing 8.1 OS?

regards
neelakantan[/QUOTE

Did you ever get your DVD/USB windows 8.1 setup disk? If not, let me know, and I can give you a link for creating one directly from MICROSOFT for free and no download key needed.

Hey netverse. I was reading this thread when I saw your post. Could you post the link you mentioned? I am trying to learn more about 8.
 

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    8.1
hi all!

I originally had windows 8 prowmc licensed (I have the iso image for that in case I need to reinstall); I upgraded /updated from store free update; now I have a valid licensed 8.1 running; but I don't have an iso; and if I have to re-install, I have to install 8, activate it and again do a 3.5 gb download to update;

I read from DISM that I can make a install.wim image from the existing hdd OS partition; so is it possible to create an image for the existing 8.1 OS?

regards
neelakantan[/QUOTE

Did you ever get your DVD/USB windows 8.1 setup disk? If not, let me know, and I can give you a link for creating one directly from MICROSOFT for free and no download key needed.

A better choice would be to use the MS Mediacreationtool to download and create a Windows 8.1 ISO for future use. See here: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-windows-8-1-iso-download-create.html
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
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    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
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    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
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