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OEM Win 8 and re-installing from recovery partition

  1. #1


    uk
    Posts : 4
    win 8

    OEM Win 8 and re-installing from recovery partition


    Hi,


    After days and days of searching and testing, I have been unable to find the necessary clues to resolve a windows 8 re-install problem. Any pointers of advice gratefully received.


    The problem: My son's laptop (Windows 8) failed, and despite F9 options to reset or refresh, and CHKDSK was unable to recover the system due to bad disk sectors. I bought a new disk , but as I had made no recovery media ( I know, I know ), and the OEM doesn't supply any, I have no way of reinstalling Windows 8.

    However I did mange to install Ubuntu Linux on the new disk and the Laptop is now working fine. Out of curiosity I connected the old bad disk via a USB enclosure, and lo and behold Disk utility was able to read the OEM Recovery and Restore partitions. I have made several copies of these on a Win 7 laptop, USB and LInux partitions, and all look good (as far as i can tell).


    My issue is that as the OEM recovery partitions seem fine, I reckon they should be installable onto the new disk, but I am at a loss as to how I can use this data to reinstall Win 8 onto my laptop. Most of the advice I can see assumes a working copy of WIn 8 or having a retail Win 8 ISO, which of course I do not have. Remember , unlike Win 7, WIn 8 has no product key identifiable as it is contained in the BIOS somewhere, but I reckon it should recognise the OEM's recovery partition if I only could manage to load it.


    I now have a sketchy knowledge of lots of new terms (mounting , partitioning, MBRs, boot sequences etc ) and learned that how fraught this topic is to so many people, but I am unable to find a guide as to exactly what to do. [ The tutorial on this form requires a retail win 8 ISO]. I did find a Linux method involcing DD, DDRESCUE , PARTPROBE etc ) which I have tried but all to no avail - I am sure I was close though! ]


    So before I forsake Windows forever, are there any pointers or advice anyone can offer.


    Many thanks
    Rob

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  2. #2


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    information   Information

    We always assume you have made your Recovery Disks using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Media Creator app the first day you had your new PC.
    & made the Startup Repair CD.
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
    System Repair Disc - Create in Windows 8





    You can make a Microsoft Recovery USB Drive
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
    warning   Warning
    Deleting the Recovery Partition is NOT RECOMMENDED


    warning   Warning
    I personally DO NOT RECOMMEND using this METHOD above, as of the ERRORS you may receive below with the Microsoft Recovery USB Drive.You would be best off using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery DVD's or Recovery USB drive.




    I would recommend you making the OEM manufacturer's Recovery DVD's or USB drive.
    or
    You can order the Microsoft official OEM Recovery disks from the OEM manufacturer's website.





    The Windows Recovery USB drive & Recovery Partition can be very problematic, I recommend you also make a Windows System Image.

    System Image - Create in Windows 8

    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8

    System Repair Disc - Create in Windows 8

    System Image Recovery - Restore Image on Computer in Windows 8

    or
    look for a 3rd party ,Backup software, which fully supports Windows 8, uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot.
    Which is signed by Microsoft.
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  3. #3


    Manchester, UK
    Posts : 113
    OS X / Windows 8.1 Pro / Ubuntu 13.10


    I have never tried it (as I've always created recovery media) but in your situation I would try to create a partition on your new drive of the same size as the recovery partition on your old drive then DD the contents from the old to the new.
    Then I'd try to start the recovery process with the manufacturer's key-press combination and see if it works.
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    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    What make & model?
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  5. #5


    uk
    Posts : 4
    win 8


    Hello Theog and Duckface , thanks for the your replies.


    Fyi the laptop is from ASUS , model X55C


    Remember I do not have working access to a Windows 8 environment, and therefore cannot make a Win 8 USB drive. Moreover, the OEM does not provide recovery media for Windows 8 for my model (I asked).


    True I could simply buy a retail version, but as I feel I have already bought the Windows license when I bought the laptop, I would feel a little peeved to pay for it twice over.


    For added info, in Linux I have tried to transfer the relevant partition data from the bad drive to USB


    dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count =1 ≠ to copy bad drive's MBR to USB
    partprobe /dev/sdc ≠ to update partition table
    dd if=/dev/sd2 of=/dev/sdc2 bs=1M ≠ to copy recovery partition to USB


    set boot to look for USB drive first
    set boot options to Launch CSM and sub option Launch PXE OpROM.


    When restarted, the laptop just displays an empty screen. So as I understand it, the bios software recognises the USB stick, but the boot sequence cannot invoke the recovery partition boot regime. I am aware I may be well off the mark here though.

    Thanks Rob
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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    To use Recovery partition.
    All partitions must in-place as the first day you had your new PC.



    To make Recovery disks, Backtracker may need to be installed.
    http://www.asus.com/supportonly/ASUS...rt_Download_36


    You can order the Microsoft official OEM Recovery disks from the ASUS OEM manufacturer's website.
    Essentio Recovery Software
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  7. #7


    Manchester, UK
    Posts : 113
    OS X / Windows 8.1 Pro / Ubuntu 13.10


    I would have thought there would be a key press or combination to boot from a recovery partition. All of my pc's had one.

    I wouldn't have thought it would be bootable via USB though. I would try to recreate the partition on the new hard drive and then dd from the old to that new partition. The new partition should probably be of a certain type code so that the system would know its use.
    The key press combination may then work - but I guess that's a long shot really.
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    Posts : 1
    Window XP


    You should third party software like RecoveryFix for Windows, this utility recover all lost or corrupted files & folders without any data loss. More information :- partitionrecoveryfreeware.net and download trial version.
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  9. #9


    uk
    Posts : 4
    win 8


    thanks everyone, but no joy from any of the suggestions: vis,
    1. the OEM support desk emailed me they have no recovery disks for my serial number (annoying 'cause it is only five months old)
    2. the suggestion to DD load directly to the new disk did not work
    3. As I have no Windows OS on the machine, so I cannot down load windows recovery software

    I reckon I have spent far too long trying to resolve what I thought, perhaps naively, would be a commonly occurring problem. So thanks guys for your suggestions, but I think I'll stick to Linux.

    Rob
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  10. #10


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    Windows 8.1


    Maybe I'm missing something here but according to this ASUS procedure, you can do a factory restore without any recovery disks by simply using this procedure:

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Troubleshooting X55C

    Sorry, if I missed something important.

    Good luck.
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