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Besically "Yes" or "No" to W8 code on W8.1 evaluation copy

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    Besically "Yes" or "No" to W8 code on W8.1 evaluation copy


    I installed Windows 8.1 Beta and all my programs again. It runs fine most of the time; but a few quirks here and there which can be (or were) mostly ironed out...

    I have bought an Amazon copy of Windows 8 Pro and want to use the code in the box to legitimise? the current version of windows 8.1 in a few weeks when 8.1 Pro is officially released (plus with any update it may require).

    1) Will putting in a Windows 8 Pro code work (for it to auto-update to the latest version of Windows 8.1 via the Windows Update service); even though this is the Evaluation copy of Windows 8.1?
    2) Will there be no problems? (Obviously there will).

    3) Should I do it? OR wait and pay twice as much for a copy of Windows 8.1 with updates already on the disc and then have to spend another fifty to seventy hours getting my computer and programs (and files) back to normal with another full re-install (remembering every passcode and password and file in the process)?

    N.B.;
    I only ever buy software with DVD discs. Always with a hard copy back-up for when pre-WW3 starts and the plug is pulled from the internet.

    4) Or; will Windows 8.1 run out in a couple of weeks and force me to buy a copy on the internet only?

    I say this (at `4)`) because I tried to pay for Windows 8.1 online from my System Properties window (Update online) and it told me generally, that, because I am abroad, (Japan) that I cannot buy windows 8.1 (At least not yet), not using the English language Microsoft Update Purchasing service (words to that effect).

    5) Will that always be the case (because I can use the Windows 8 Pro DVD set I bought already for another PC I am re-building)?

    I dont want to use the Windows 8 Pro code on the PC in question, if doing so will be a pain in the donkey. I would rather save it to use on another PC I am updating fully as I prefer the main PC to have an copy of W8.1 from disc (less downloads required to update) if there will be any `issues`; as there always seems to be with Windows.


    I worry that if I try and use the code on the main PC, and it refuses to play, then I will have gigabytes of W8 updates/downloads if/when I have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall everything again (as millions of people have had to do with various versions of Windows over the past twenty years). . For this PC I would rather install a New purchase of W8.1 if there will be problems with putting a W8 Pro code on W8.1 evaluation.
    Last edited by rogerthat1945; 08 Oct 2013 at 22:22.

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    I would like to know this as well.
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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    You can't go from the 8.1 Preview to the RTM (final) though the Windows store. Not as far as I know anyway. If you could everybody would be doing it to get 8.1 for free so Microsoft will block that. You also can't change the Preview to the final just by entering a product code, you have to reinstall with the RTM install media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    You can't go from the 8.1 Preview to the RTM (final) though the Windows store. Not as far as I know anyway. If you could everybody would be doing it to get 8.1 for free so Microsoft will block that. You also can't change the Preview to the final just by entering a product code, you have to reinstall with the RTM install media.
    Ok so am i to understand that once windows 8.1 RTM becomes available on the 18th, registered users can download the new release?

    I just purchased an 8.0 Pro OEM version and updated the 8.1 product key with the one supplied.

    Or do i need to install the 8.0 version and wait till the 18th for the RTM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    You can't go from the 8.1 Preview to the RTM (final) though the Windows store. Not as far as I know anyway. If you could everybody would be doing it to get 8.1 for free so Microsoft will block that. You also can't change the Preview to the final just by entering a product code, you have to reinstall with the RTM install media.
    I'm puzzled by exactly how people will get from 8.1 Preview to 8.1 General Availability.

    Microsoft have said that they won't make ISOs available to "consumers", which I've assumed means people without subscriptions to MSDN/ Technet/ etc. However anyone could install the 8.1 Preview, with no subscription to anything.

    Microsoft have also said that you'll be able to get from 8.1 Preview to 8.1 GA, and keep your personal files, but need to reinstall apps, which I also assume means they will be providing a mechanism to do it.

    However, as above, I don't think they will be providing ISO files to all Preview users, many of whom won't have a Technet etc. subscription.

    So I was wondering if they would do it through the Store, but you'll have to type in your Windows 8 Product Key (or it'll read it off the motherboard for preinstalled Win8). But I'm guessing.

    Any more guesses on what the mechanism will be...?!
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    NO need for a key when updating from MS STORE, key will be need to upgrade using DVD.

    Activate retail Windows 8.1 with Windows 8 Product key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rage19420 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    You can't go from the 8.1 Preview to the RTM (final) though the Windows store. Not as far as I know anyway. If you could everybody would be doing it to get 8.1 for free so Microsoft will block that. You also can't change the Preview to the final just by entering a product code, you have to reinstall with the RTM install media.
    Ok so am i to understand that once windows 8.1 RTM becomes available on the 18th, registered users can download the new release?

    I just purchased an 8.0 Pro OEM version and updated the 8.1 product key with the one supplied.

    Or do i need to install the 8.0 version and wait till the 18th for the RTM?
    Windows 8 users can upgrade though the Windows Store on the 18th. You won't get anything you can download and save, not as far as I know anyway. Files will be downloaded to do the upgrade but you won't be prompted to save them and they are likely deleted once the update is complete. To actually get an ISO you'll have to buy a license for 8.1. Unless you have a TechNet or MSDN subscription. If you actually have the RTM ISO you can install with one of the 8.1 install keys and then activate with your 8.0 product key. I've done it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    You can't go from the 8.1 Preview to the RTM (final) though the Windows store. Not as far as I know anyway. If you could everybody would be doing it to get 8.1 for free so Microsoft will block that. You also can't change the Preview to the final just by entering a product code, you have to reinstall with the RTM install media.
    I'm puzzled by exactly how people will get from 8.1 Preview to 8.1 General Availability.

    Microsoft have said that they won't make ISOs available to "consumers", which I've assumed means people without subscriptions to MSDN/ Technet/ etc. However anyone could install the 8.1 Preview, with no subscription to anything.

    Microsoft have also said that you'll be able to get from 8.1 Preview to 8.1 GA, and keep your personal files, but need to reinstall apps, which I also assume means they will be providing a mechanism to do it.

    However, as above, I don't think they will be providing ISO files to all Preview users, many of whom won't have a Technet etc. subscription.

    So I was wondering if they would do it through the Store, but you'll have to type in your Windows 8 Product Key (or it'll read it off the motherboard for preinstalled Win8). But I'm guessing.

    Any more guesses on what the mechanism will be...?!
    If they allowed you to go from preview to RTM what's to stop somebody from, downloading the Preview ISO, install it with the Microsoft supplied Preview key, and then get a free upgrade to the RTM? I don't think you'll be able to go from Preview to RTM, I've been wrong before though. If you have a link to where it was said you could I wouldn't mind having a look at it. They are going to have to check Product codes or something. My two 8.1 PC's have Media Center added so the code in the registry is my Media Center code not the 8.X code used to install 8.1. On my laptop I used one of my TechNet 8.1 codes, on my desktop I used my 8.0 code to activate. But as I said, after that I added Media Center. They are also going to run into issues trying to get someone to type in their Windows 8 OEM embedded codes, there is no COA sticker with that code on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If they allowed you to go from preview to RTM what's to stop somebody from, downloading the Preview ISO, install it with the Microsoft supplied Preview key, and then get a free upgrade to the RTM? I don't think you'll be able to go from Preview to RTM, I've been wrong before though. If you have a link to where it was said you could I wouldn't mind having a look at it.
    Yes of course.

    From the comments here:
    Pricing and Packaging for Windows 8.1
    Quote Originally Posted by someone with a username suspiciously like mine ;)
    Hi Brandon,
    ...
    Also, is there anything more you can tell us on how the upgrade from 8.1 Preview to the real 8.1 will work?
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon LeBlanc from Microsoft
    When you move from the Windows 8.1 Preview to the final release of Windows 8.1 - you'll be able to keep your personal files, but you'll need to reinstall your apps.
    I've seen it elsewhere too - it's mentioned in the tutorial here too, and I think predates that Blog post.
    https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...d-install.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Tutorial
    •If upgrading from Windows 8.1 Preview/Windows RT 8.1 Preview to Windows 8.1 final/Windows 8.1 RT final (when released October 18th 2013), you will "Keep personal files only", but will lose your settings and have to reinstall all of your apps.
    And from the 8.1 Preview FAQ:
    Windows 8.1 Preview FAQ - Microsoft Windows
    Quote Originally Posted by 8.1 Preview FAQ
    Will I be able to keep my files, settings, and apps if I install Windows 8.1 Preview?

    ...lots of other stuff and then...
    When you install subsequent editions of Windows 8.1 you'll be able to keep your personal files, but you'll need to reinstall your apps.
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    Well I guess you can go from Preview to final. > Additionally, you'll also need your Windows 8 product key when you update to the final edition of Windows 8.1 from the preview.<
    Windows 8.1 Preview FAQ - Microsoft Windows Look under "Do I need a Product key to install Windows 8.1 Preview".

    EDIT: lol, I had just hit the post button and got an e-mail notification of your above post.
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