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Impending Window 8.1 Upgrade - Benefits?

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    Impending Window 8.1 Upgrade - Benefits?


    Hello all,

    I've been on vacation so I've missed a lot of 8.1 news (I guess). Anyway, as a non-apps person, I don't see any immediate benefit to arbitrarily rush into this upgrade for the following reasons:

    1. I've already got the boot directly to desktop and start button covered via Start8.
    2. I don't want to lose the inherent Windows 7 system imaging.
    3. I don't like the fact that the inherent WEI testing will be lost.

    Now, I already know all the alternatives for 2 and 3 above because I am running 8.1 Preview on my laptop; however, I just don't see any immediate benefit for a non-apper to rush into this upgrade. So, am I missing any major improvement here?

    Thanks for responding.

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    Can't think of much..

    1. Finger print log on built in
    2. Windows directory is smaller.

    It's fun to play around with something new though.
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  3. #3


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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Can't think of much..

    1. Finger print log on built in
    2. Windows directory is smaller.

    It's fun to play around with something new though.
    Thanks for that info. Yes, I also like to play around as well; however, I like to keep my play area separate from my work area and that upgrade would have to be done in my work area because that's where my Win 8 (paid version) resides. Again, thank you!
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    Well as it happens I use 8.1 for my work but luckily I need only 3 programs - word, excel and IBM Client Access. I tested these and have used 8.1 for about 2 weeks now. No major issues for me. I like the boot to desktop as I'd never bothered to install any tool to do it but it is a trivial improvement as is (for me) changing the look of the all apps screen.

    The only minor irritations I've found are

    VirtualBox caused BSOD on resume from sleep if you have bridged networking installed so I reinstalled it without as I don't need it.

    Cisco AnyConnect does the same but I rarely use it and it isn't supported on Win 8 anyway. No big deal.

    SkyDrive folder isn't backed up by File History so I'm backing it up manually at the moment. I make system images ad-hoc through file history also so have only lost the scheduling.

    I'm generally happy with it but there are no must-have's I can think of. Perhaps I missed something though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    2. I don't want to lose the inherent Windows 7 system imaging.
    I believe I saw somewhere that the System Image function is back in Windows 8.1 RTM, tucked away on a File History menu (it wasn't there in 8.1 Preview I think). However I think the Windows 7 Backup is still gone?
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    Correct. The difference is in File History you can only create an image immediately. You can't schedule it to run every week/month as you could in 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    2. I don't want to lose the inherent Windows 7 system imaging.
    I believe I saw somewhere that the System Image function is back in Windows 8.1 RTM, tucked away on a File History menu (it wasn't there in 8.1 Preview I think). However I think the Windows 7 Backup is still gone?
    Hi DavidY,

    Now that would be a welcome return for my purposes, and that alone, might be enough for me to consider making the transition. I don't need the backup function but I do prefer the inherent system image function that I am currently using on Win 8. Thanks for the tip. I'll check that out.
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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Correct. The difference is in File History you can only create an image immediately. You can't schedule it to run every week/month as you could in 8.
    I can live with that because I only create a system image "on demand." Thanks!
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  9. #9


    Welcome back, my2cents. Lol! By the looks of your new avatar your boat sank?!!

    Not sure, but I thought I read somewhere that WEI program is still present within the system. It's just that it's hidden. If my memory serves me right, one can perform this via the command line. Please don't quote me on that though.

    Some good points would be system navigational options without using 3rd party programs to do so. The option to boot to desktop instead of Start Screen for one. The option to use All Apps instead of Start Screen for another, although I realize it doesn't quite fit the bill for the elimination of the Start Button and Menu for some users. Some "non-Metro/Modern desktoppers" as I call them seem to be satisfied with that. Along with that option they use native menus on the desktop that they configure. jimbo45 started a few threads on how to perform that. There's one here: https://www.eightforums.com/customiza...hout-using-3rd- There's a more recent one, but I can't seem to find it.

    "This PC" was added to File Explorer, which is a big aid to help organize and network.

    SkyDrive is more integrated into the system with it's own folder and Store app if one likes to use that, although one cannot back it up in File History as adamf stated. On the other hand SkyDrive is a backup system within itself.

    Background personalization options have been added. One can now configure the same background on both the Start Screen and the Desktop for one. I use Bing desktop so both backgrounds change daily. One can configure one's lock screen to scroll through one's pics for another. There are other personalization options.

    Bing is now integrated in the Charm's search so one can also get results from the Inet.

    These are some I can think of right now.

    Lol! I think Ms would like everyone to forget about Windows 8 and move on to 8.1. I think they rushed 8 out the door too fast without accumulating and/or listening to enough user feedback. They should have taken a longer pre-release period to make the substantial changes. They sure got a hell of a lot of bad press concerning 8!

    I've been dual booting with 8.1RP to learn some of it. Personally I'm looking forward to the upgrade on the 18th. My only concern is upgrading via the Store. Would much rather have an ISO in order to fresh install. I'm not one for upgrades. We'll see how it goes.
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  10. #10


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    Windows 8.1


    Welcome back, my2cents. Lol! By the looks of your new avatar your boat sank?!!
    I'll tell you more when I get a chance to respond to your PM.

    Not sure, but I thought I read somewhere that WEI program is still present within the system.
    Yes, I know how to run it on 8.1 but thank you for that reminder.

    Also, thank you for all that additional information as well. Much appreciated and good luck with your own upgrade. Thanks again.

    Cheers!
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