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Dual Boot Win 8 & Win XP Pro SP3 64-bit?

  1. #1


    Minnesota
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    Windows 8

    Dual Boot Win 8 & Win XP Pro SP3 64-bit?


    This is my first time for anything like this, so please bear with me.

    I purchased 3 Windows 8 systems last week. In order to run my existing CAD software (we cannot afford to update the CAD to the WIN 7 Pro compatible version yet), I need to add Windows XP Pro 64-bit w/SP3, and configure the systems to dual boot on the single stock 500GB HDD. I'm not sure if this would be the same as any of the dual boot tutorials I read in the forums here, as none of them addressed WIN8/WINXP dual boot setup. As we can't get any tech support from our CAD manufacturer for setting this dual boot configuration up, we're on our own, which means it falls to me. Without being able to find any solid info on this specific setup, I don't want to just dive in and try to wing it.

    Any help +/or advice with this would be greatly appreciated. And I mean GREATLY appreciated!

    Note: If it makes a difference, I believe our WIN XP Pro has integrated SATA driver setup.

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    Welcome to EightForums.

    1) First did you do your homework on the three PC's that you purchased, that the OEM manufacturer supported the PC's with Win XP drivers?

    For example: Fujitsu P400/E400 Tower/Desktop, has Win XP drivers.

    2) You can not dual boot Windows 8 Pre-install is the install in UEFI mode, Win XP x32 will not install in UEFI mode.
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  3. #3


    Minnesota
    Posts : 6
    Windows 8


    Hi THEOG. Asking ACER if the machines supported WIN XP Pro drivers got the usual "we only support the operating system factory installed in your systems" answer, and they answered the same about setting up a dual boot. The OS "expert" at Micro Center told me he was 'pretty sure' it would work out okay, just FYI.

    I was told that WIN XP Pro x64 could be set up in a separate partition to dual boot. However, going through the advanced startup, it says I can change settings in the UEFI BIOS. So it looks like Windows 8 x64 was pre-installed in UEFI mode. Can you dual boot if both Windows 8 and Win XP Pro are the 64-bit (x64) editions?

    Now I'm even more worried.
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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    You will find it hard work looking for drivers for Win XP x64, as Win XP x64 is readly for Itanium motherboard versions.


    You can dual boot Windows 8 x64 & Win XP x32 in Legacy mode if the UEFI/BIOS firmware has a OS boot, Legacy option.
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    Minnesota
    Posts : 6
    Windows 8


    I had forgotten about the Itanium boards. It's been so long since we first started using WIN XP Pro for our CAD program that I didn't remember all the pieces it took to make it work right that many years ago.

    Okay, so I better check whether the firmware has that option. It's extra frustrating since I haven't kept up on all the system advances (from a system builder standpoint) since I moved into enterprise data security. We all used to be able to do everything ourselves, but it seems everything has become so specialized. I've lost a lot of ground when it comes to system design/building.

    I appreciate the help very much! Hopefully I can figure something out by tomorrow so I can at least tell the CEO where we stand. I might have a few more questions after that. I'll check back in tomorrow, then.

    Thanks again!
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    Minnesota
    Posts : 6
    Windows 8


    Okay, I think I've gotten to the point that I'm ready to try this. I still don't know an exact procedure to follow step-by-step as there's NO info anywhere on setting up a WIN 8 system to dual boot with WIN XP Pro x32.

    After disabling Secure Boot and enabling Legacy mode, do I then create the partition for the WIN XP Pro x32 install? Or create the partition before enabling Legacy mode?

    How large should the partition be?

    Is there a risk we could lose the WIN 8 and recovery partitions after installing WIN XP Pro?(I thought I read something some time ago about that, but I can't find the link anywhere.)

    Anything else you can think of, or any advice and guidance would be appreciated!

    I'm sort of starting to wonder if I should consider taking out the HDD with WIN 8 and starting with a fresh drive to attempt the WIN XP install as a stand-alone OS. Comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonW1701
    Is there a risk we could lose the WIN 8 and recovery partitions after installing WIN XP Pro?(I thought I read something some time ago about that, but I can't find the link anywhere.)
    Yes you will, as you will need to delete ALL partitions

    Quote Originally Posted by JonW1701
    I'm sort of starting to wonder if I should consider taking out the HDD with WIN 8 and starting with a fresh drive to attempt the WIN XP install as a stand-alone OS. Comments?
    That would be the best way go.


    To start with take look Step 3 in this tutorial:

    Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7
    Warning you must have the UEFI/BIOS firmware setting in Step Three set.

    Make sure you read the NOTE at Step three.
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  8. #8


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I think you'll find that after disabling Secure Boot and enabling Legacy mode, the current Windows 8 install will not boot up.
    Yes there is a risk you'll lose access to the current Windows 8 recovery partition.
    Installing XP is going to over write the boot sector/boot loader so your current Windows 8 install will not be bootable anymore after you install XP.
    The way you would usually setup a dual boot would be to install the older OS first. XP then Windows 8. Windows 8 would see the XP install and setup the dual boot for you.
    Using a separate drive for XP would work, sort of. To dual boot you'd have to change BIOS settings each time you switch OS. It would be a good way to test if it will actually work on one PC without messing up your current Windows 8 install though.
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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    1) DISABLE Secure Boot.

    2) ENABLE CSM.

    3) Set CSM to Leyacy OS Boot.

    4) ENABLE One Time Boot Menu

    Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7
    Warning you must have the UEFI/BIOS firmware setting in Step Three set.

    Make sure you read the NOTE at Step three.

    5) Boot Win XP & install.

    Enabling the boot device menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Acer
    On most Acer systems, you can use the F12 key on boot to select the drive or network from which loading the operating system. In case the F12 option does not work, you may need to enable this function.

    SOLUTION

    Enabling the F12 function:

    1.Power on the system. As soon as the first logo screen appears, immediately press the F2 key, or the DEL key if you have a desktop, to enter the BIOS.
    2.Press the right arrow key to select Main.
    3.Use the arrow keys to navigate to F12 Boot Menu, and press ENTER.
    4.Select Enabled, and press ENTER.
    5.Press the F10 key to save changes and restart the system.

    How to Enable or Disable Secure Boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Acer
    This article only applies to: Windows 8 Desktops

    Bootable media from previous versions of Windows may not be recognized in Windows 8. You can change the Secure Boot setting and it should recognize the bootable device.

    Use the following steps to change Secure Boot:

    1.Completely shut down your computer.
    2.Power on the system. As soon as the first logo screen appears, immediately press Delete to enter the BIOS.
    3.Use the right arrow key to select Authentication.
    4.With Secure Boot highlighted, press Enter and then the down arrow to select Disabled.
    5.Use the right arrow key to select Boot Options.
    6.With Launch CSM highlighted, press Enter and use the down arrow to select Always.
    7.Press Enter.
    8.Press the F10 key to save changes and restart the system

    ACER Related Videos.

    Windows 8 - Access to Uefi Firmware Settings - Option - YouTube
    Iconia W700 - How to Enter the BIOS - YouTube
    Windows 8 Desktops - How to Disable Secure Boot - YouTube
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  10. #10


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    If you don't have support for the graphics card, chipset and LAN you are going to have a hard time.
    The Acer support page at Acer | Download lists drivers for Windows 7 and 8 only.
    Possibly a Virtual machine solution with VMWare will at least give reasonably good performance, without affecting your Windows 8 installations.

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