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  1. #111


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  2. #112


    Mission, TX
    Posts : 96
    windows 8 Pro


    Hi Peter2. yes there are more steps and screens. I have seen those screens before so I knew what I was looking for. Macrium is much easier to follow. the time to do each one is about the same. I need to learn now about backing up and restoring files and folders in Macrium as in the windows one it was pretty simple especially identifying single files. Larry
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter2 View Post
    Yes, but isn't the means of creating them in Win 8 and 8.1 different and harder than Win 7?
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  3. #113


    Mission, TX
    Posts : 96
    windows 8 Pro

    windows 8.1 upgrade


    Peter2 I would not say harder. yes perhaps more steps but the end results are the same.
    the suggestions and instructions posted here by theog and the detailed instructions and display
    that Brink put together is really outstanding. I like to try as many of them as I can to learn from.
    this time after re installing I have tried to everything using the start menu and apps. so far I am
    comfortable with it. I have used HP Quickstart Pokki and modern8 and one other program to keep
    things like windows 7 but really I don't have a urge to go back to any of them.
    Larry
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  4. #114


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    Quote Originally Posted by lfchisholm View Post
    Hi Peter2. yes there are more steps and screens. I have seen those screens before so I knew what I was looking for. Macrium is much easier to follow. the time to do each one is about the same. I need to learn now about backing up and restoring files and folders in Macrium as in the windows one it was pretty simple especially identifying single files. Larry
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter2 View Post
    Yes, but isn't the means of creating them in Win 8 and 8.1 different and harder than Win 7?

    >>Larry - You can find files and folders with your Macrium image.Peter
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  5. #115


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Win 8 recovery


    Theog and larry
    Perhaps you can help me out.
    I am all set with Macrium and the WinPE disc. I also have finally understood the way to disable secure boot and launch CMA. So I can use the disc as I did with the old BIOS or use UEFI with the enabled and disabled (or legacy).

    I could swear I read where the new UEFI machine takes away the older way of backing up and recovering. All I saw was a lot of command prompts.

    I agree Win 7 and 8 can create and recover the image but seem to read that UEFI changes all that.

    I don't have the newer UEFI so will have to wait to tinker.

    Please advise me so I am not disillusioned.
    Thank you

    PS Ask Theog if you can obtain your files and folders with Macrium as I can. No need to learn the UEFI Win image and recover with its difficulties.
    Peter
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  6. #116


    Mission, TX
    Posts : 96
    windows 8 Pro

    windows 8.1 upgrade


    Peter2 I can only speak for what I am doing with the system I have. I no nothing of the past because this the first time I have tried image creation and restore. With Macrium I have the steps that I take and they work for me.
    As to windows back up and restore I can do it also. I have created the rescue dvd that they offer in one of the links.
    theog I believe said that I don't need it.
    I see that when you run backup and restore it offers the option on the screen I think to do an image restore. this leads me to believe if I do it that it will go into a restart and come up with restore the image file or backups.
    that being the case then you would not have to use a rescue cd.
    I know that is not the answer you are looking for but that is why I was having trouble following what you were giving me. I learned a lot from all that you wrote me however I know very little about windows 7 or even vista as I never tried these things when I used them.
    Larry
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  7. #117


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    Quote Originally Posted by lfchisholm View Post
    Peter2 I can only speak for what I am doing with the system I have. I no nothing of the past because this the first time I have tried image creation and restore. With Macrium I have the steps that I take and they work for me.
    As to windows back up and restore I can do it also. I have created the rescue dvd that they offer in one of the links.
    theog I believe said that I don't need it.
    I see that when you run backup and restore it offers the option on the screen I think to do an image restore. this leads me to believe if I do it that it will go into a restart and come up with restore the image file or backups.
    that being the case then you would not have to use a rescue cd.
    I know that is not the answer you are looking for but that is why I was having trouble following what you were giving me. I learned a lot from all that you wrote me however I know very little about windows 7 or even vista as I never tried these things when I used them.
    Larry
    I have NOT.
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  8. #118


    Mission, TX
    Posts : 96
    windows 8 Pro

    windows 8.1 upgrade


    theog I stand corrected. I guess in all the msgs. I had that understanding. I am sorry for the misinterpatation.
    I know that the ability to create the rescue cd is offered and I made it an it worked. and it works.
    Larry
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  9. #119


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter2
    Theog and larry
    Perhaps you can help me out.
    I am all set with Macrium and the WinPE disc. I also have finally understood the way to disable secure boot and launch CMA. So I can use the disc as I did with the old BIOS or use UEFI with the enabled and disabled (or legacy).

    Quote Originally Posted by theog
    As I have said a few times.
    Software that uses WinPE4, there is NO need to mess around in the UEFI/BIOS firmware, you could BRICK your PC.
    I could swear I read where the new UEFI machine takes away the older way of backing up and recovering. All I saw was a lot of command prompts.

    Quote Originally Posted by theog
    NO, only way the Recovery disk will boot.
    With Legacy BIOS the disk will boot in Legacy mode.
    With UEFI/BIOS the disk will boot in UEFI mode.
    I agree Win 7 and 8 can create and recover the image but seem to read that UEFI changes all that.

    Quote Originally Posted by theog
    Only that there is more Partitions to image.
    I don't have the newer UEFI so will have to wait to tinker.

    Please advise me so I am not disillusioned.
    Thank you

    PS Ask Theog if you can obtain your files and folders with Macrium as I can. No need to learn the UEFI Win image and recover with its difficulties.
    Peter
    Quote Originally Posted by theog
    Macrium should have the same options in both Legacy & UEFI.

    A example of using UNSIGN software.
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    New ASUS laptop has no recovery disk utlity!
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  10. #120


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64


    Larry
    Don't worry about misunderstandings as they occur easily when typing and not talking.
    We are all trying to learn. I understand you have no prior knowledge like Vista etc. As I told you, I am a relative novice like you as I have been doing forums for about 10 years.
    I have had Win XP, then Win 7 and now Win 8.
    I am on the same page as you as we are only trying to figure things out and people like theog are also trying to answer them. No hard feelings just mistakes but not on purpose. We are all trying to learn and it is not easy. Every one had to start somewhere and it is nice when you get patient support. Everything will work out. As far as files and folders go, I can locate any of them either in Computer or in Macrium. Just unmounts something you may mount. I think mounting makes it easier to view with Windows.
    Anyway see if you can find a folder in Computer or Macrium and let me know. I will be looking to why I thought it was now difficult with Win 8 machines with UEFI to image with Windows and recover with the same.
    Peter
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