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  1. #11


    Posts : 56
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 (6.3.9600)


    Quote Originally Posted by eager2008 View Post
    Is upgrading from Win 8 to Win 8.1 working ?
    I used the downloaded .iso (MSDN), but it only offered to keep personal files, all applications were gone after install.
    Is this the expected behavior ?
    If yes, this will be difficult cause MS has stated that all 8 users must upgrade to 8.1

    Anyone knows if the same applies to Server 2012 R2 (upgrade from 2012 to 2012 R2) ?
    No it is not expected behaviour, I mounted the ISO (MSDN) from the downloads folder and there were three options in setup available. The first option will keep everything.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 18
    Windows 8 Pro


    [QUOTE=No it is not expected behaviour, I mounted the ISO (MSDN) from the downloads folder and there were three options in setup available. The first option will keep everything.[/QUOTE]

    Perhaps not so strange, the file I downloaded was stamped Sep 09, downloaded Sep 14, named en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso
    Seems like this file was withdrawn after my download.
    Downloading newer now and look forward to try later today, will report...
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  3. #13


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    [QUOTE=eager2008;280048]
    Quote Originally Posted by No it is not expected behaviour, I mounted the ISO (MSDN) from the downloads folder and there were three options in setup available. The first option will keep everything.[/QUOTE

    Perhaps not so strange, the file I downloaded was stamped Sep 09, downloaded Sep 14, named en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso
    Seems like this file was withdrawn after my download.
    Downloading newer now and look forward to try later today, will report...
    en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso is still listed on TechNet for me? Windows 8.1 (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)
    They have added some VL editions and N editions to the list. You might want to double check that you are downloading the correct file.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 18
    Windows 8 Pro


    [QUOTE=alphanumeric;280056]
    Quote Originally Posted by eager2008 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No it is not expected behaviour, I mounted the ISO (MSDN) from the downloads folder and there were three options in setup available. The first option will keep everything.[/QUOTE

    Perhaps not so strange, the file I downloaded was stamped Sep 09, downloaded Sep 14, named en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso
    Seems like this file was withdrawn after my download.
    Downloading newer now and look forward to try later today, will report...
    en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso is still listed on TechNet for me? Windows 8.1 (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)
    They have added some VL editions and N editions to the list. You might want to double check that you are downloading the correct file.
    Sorry, visible for me as well, but anyway the problem I have described above.
    However, downloaded one of the newer files (en_windows_8_1_enterprise_x64_dvd_2791088.iso), starting setup.exe from iso from within old w8 shows 3 choices, installing now, seems ok.
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  5. #15


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    [QUOTE=eager2008;280048]
    Quote Originally Posted by No it is not expected behaviour, I mounted the ISO (MSDN) from the downloads folder and there were three options in setup available. The first option will keep everything.[/QUOTE

    Perhaps not so strange, the file I downloaded was stamped Sep 09, downloaded Sep 14, named en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso
    Seems like this file was withdrawn after my download.
    Downloading newer now and look forward to try later today, will report...
    Ummm, I just got through downloading that file from Technet. (For whatever reason, my subscription was extended 90 days from September 1 [before Technet is no longer available]) Nothing newer on Technet.
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  6. #16


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by eager2008 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eager2008 View Post

    Perhaps not so strange, the file I downloaded was stamped Sep 09, downloaded Sep 14, named en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso
    Seems like this file was withdrawn after my download.
    Downloading newer now and look forward to try later today, will report...
    en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso is still listed on TechNet for me? Windows 8.1 (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)
    They have added some VL editions and N editions to the list. You might want to double check that you are downloading the correct file.
    Sorry, visible for me as well, but anyway the problem I have described above.
    However, downloaded one of the newer files (en_windows_8_1_enterprise_x64_dvd_2791088.iso), starting setup.exe from iso from within old w8 shows 3 choices, installing now, seems ok.
    That ISO is Windows 8.1 Enterprise (x64) - DVD English. Just so you know.
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  7. #17


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    [QUOTE=Wynona;280078]
    Quote Originally Posted by eager2008 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No it is not expected behaviour, I mounted the ISO (MSDN) from the downloads folder and there were three options in setup available. The first option will keep everything.[/QUOTE

    Perhaps not so strange, the file I downloaded was stamped Sep 09, downloaded Sep 14, named en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso
    Seems like this file was withdrawn after my download.
    Downloading newer now and look forward to try later today, will report...
    Ummm, I just got through downloading that file from Technet. (For whatever reason, my subscription was extended 90 days from September 1 [before Technet is no longer available]) Nothing newer on Technet.
    That is the latest Windows 8.1 x64 ISO. The others are Enterprise and Volume license. When they added them it bumped the regular Windows 8.1 off of the first page. Everybody that had a valid TechNet subscription got a 90 day extension as a result of complaints about terminating TechNet.
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  8. #18


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    The ISO has to be started from the boot menu (i.e before drivers are loaded) - it then checks devices and if driver conflicts are found you will be prompted to uninstall those - if not, it will not allow you to keep apps..I presume the store version will have this detection built in and do this check from within windows ...as it will be specifically for upgrading.
    Hi there

    WRONG .... WRONG ... WRONG. If you get the iso from TechNet / iso :

    You can run the SETUP from within windows 8 (mount the iso either as a physical DVD or as a Virtual ISO with windows 8 built in virtual mounter)

    You will get a prompt to delete everything or keep some user data (either way it's effectively a new install) -- a Windows.OLD file is created -- this is actually quite useful where some drivers aren't detected by Windows 8.1 -- especially for newer hardware -- simply update the driver from the control panel device manager and point to the windows.old file for the "search location" for the relevant drivers.


    No issues at all with the 8.1 TechNet PRO version apart from one or two drivers (for very new hardware but fixed by using the computer's pre-installed Windows 8 drivers stored in the Windows.old file) -- I am waiting for the enterprise version though for my final testing.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #19


    Posts : 56
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 (6.3.9600)


    @eager2008 Glad it worked for you.

    To unravel the confusion a bit here:

    • The TechNet ISO will update and keep everything
    • Check the hash to make sure it is the right ISO and it has not been tampered with
      SHA1: BC2F7FF5C91C9F0F8676E39E703085C65072139B
    • The file name (en_windows_8_1_x64_dvd_2707217.iso) doesn't actually matter if the hash is verified
    • The setup.exe started in Windows 8 brings the options as follows
      • Keep Windows settings, personal files, and apps
      • Keep personal files only
      • Nothing

    • As per description "This file contains both Windows 8.1 and Windows 8.1 Pro" this should work for Core and Pro (I can confirm Pro)


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  10. #20


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    I used BurnCDCC from Terabyte to burn 8.1 to DVD.

    With Windows 8.0 running, I slipped the DVD into the drive and was promptly asked for a product key. Since this is a new HP computer and came with Windows 8.0 installed, I backed out. I don't want to waste my key on what should be a free upgrade.

    I normally build all my computers, but this time I decided to just go the cheaper way out and get an HP 500-056 with 8 gigs of RAM and a 1 TB HDD, etc. 23" monitor and everything else is from the old build(s).

    I may look at things again tomorrow, but maybe not. Looks like I still have some studying to do.
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