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  1. #11


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Saltgrass View Post

    As far as the CD boot options, I do not know how you would set any boot options in the UEFI bios. Normally the bios reads any available boot options during boot. If a UEFI bootable media is in the drive, it should show as such.
    I wish I had a picture.

    But you can set boot order in Bios.

    I set mine to usb drive as primary.

    The computer sees no usb drive & continues to boot normally.
    I did this hoping if I ever needed to boot from a bootable usb it might work better.
    I have CD as the third option.

    EDIT----

    A picture !

    Click image for larger version

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saltgrass View Post

    As far as the CD boot options, I do not know how you would set any boot options in the UEFI bios. Normally the bios reads any available boot options during boot. If a UEFI bootable media is in the drive, it should show as such.
    I wish I had a picture.

    But you can set boot order in Bios.
    I agree that you can, but I only seem to have one item to set (Windows Boot Mgr-->Hard Drive). I need to add some additional items to have a boot order to set. I just don't know how to set them up (i.e. what values are required in each field).
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  3. #13


    Posts : 1,121
    Windows 8.1 x64


    I checked the Owner's manual for your system and the pages concerning the Bios setup seem to be lacking.

    Since I have never (yet) seen a system where you had to actually type in the boot devices, I will ask you to be a little more specific about where this menu is you are referring to. Is it some type of ASUS utility?

    The Windows Boot Manger is the boot option for a UEFI install. A Legacy install would show the hard drive itself. Boot devices will show or not show, depending on how the bios is set up. If you have it set for UEFI, those will show, if you have a bootable UEFI device, which means a DVD or flash drive with the UEFI compatible media loaded prior to boot.

    As an example, the .iso file made with the original Windows 8 download process would not make a UEFI compatible DVD, so it would only show as Legacy. A Windows 7 Install DVD will show as UEFI and Legacy.

    I may be misunderstanding your situation, but hopefully it will become more clear.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by mag3 View Post
    I agree that you can, but I only seem to have one item to set (Windows Boot Mgr-->Hard Drive). I need to add some additional items to have a boot order to set. I just don't know how to set them up (i.e. what values are required in each field).
    Is it possible for you to take a photo of what you see on that screen, and post it?
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by Saltgrass View Post
    I checked the Owner's manual for your system and the pages concerning the Bios setup seem to be lacking.

    Since I have never (yet) seen a system where you had to actually type in the boot devices, I will ask you to be a little more specific about where this menu is you are referring to. Is it some type of ASUS utility?

    The Windows Boot Manger is the boot option for a UEFI install. A Legacy install would show the hard drive itself. Boot devices will show or not show, depending on how the bios is set up. If you have it set for UEFI, those will show, if you have a bootable UEFI device, which means a DVD or flash drive with the UEFI compatible media loaded prior to boot.

    As an example, the .iso file made with the original Windows 8 download process would not make a UEFI compatible DVD, so it would only show as Legacy. A Windows 7 Install DVD will show as UEFI and Legacy.

    I may be misunderstanding your situation, but hopefully it will become more clear.
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mag3 View Post
    I agree that you can, but I only seem to have one item to set (Windows Boot Mgr-->Hard Drive). I need to add some additional items to have a boot order to set. I just don't know how to set them up (i.e. what values are required in each field).
    Is it possible for you to take a photo of what you see on that screen, and post it?
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    OK, here are the pictures. Sorry for the flash distortion, I just have a small hand held P & S camera.

    Step 1: Enter the main UEFI BOS Setup menu (Aptio Setup Utility Copyright 2012 by American Megatrends).

    Step 2: Proceed to the "Boot" tab. You are then presented with this screen

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    As you can see, there is only one boot option to prioritize. If there were more, i could reset the order using the "Boot Option Priority" selection.

    Step 3: Scroll down to "Add New Boot Option" (now appears in white). Press Enter. You are now presented with this screen:

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    Step 4: Press "Enter" on "Add Boot Option" You'll see a pop up for the option "name" as in this screen:

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    Step 5: Enter the name of your choice and press enter. Then scroll down to the next input, "Select Filesystem" and press enter. You are greeted with this screen:

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    The instructions on the upper right (if you could see them) tell you to select a file system "from the list provided." But, as you can see, there is only a list of "one" entry, and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the optical drive.

    Step 6: Assuming you were to pick a filesystem, you'd proceed to the next input entry as in this screen:

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    This is the "Path for the Boot Device" entry. I believe it wants the EFI path, but I have no idea what that is for the optical drive I have installed, and nowhere in the instructions does it tell me what it is or how to specify it.

    Step 7: Assuming you were able to find the correct "path" spec, the next step is to "Create" the entry:

    Click image for larger version


    And Voila! You have an additional boot option in the main boot menu. Of course, it you don't know the proper inputs, it won't create it.

    Again sorry for the flash distortion. I hope this helps clarify my perdicament.

    Thanks all, for your help so far.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Here is the instruction manual for your Aptio utility:

    http://www.ami.com/support/doc/AMI_...al_PUB.pdf

    It seems you are on the right track. Is your CD an internal drive or an external USB type?

    Click image for larger version

    I just thought I would post this information before I go out for the day. Cheers!
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    Here is the instruction manual for your Aptio utility:

    http://www.ami.com/support/doc/AMI_...al_PUB.pdf

    It seems you are on the right track. Is your CD an internal drive or an external USB type?

    Click image for larger version

    I just thought I would post this information before I go out for the day. Cheers!
    I appreciate that, but it still doesn't tell me what I need to enter in the required fields for other boot devices, like my CD-ROM (Internal, BTW). It just tells me what the fields are.

    I guess I'll have to call AMI tech support as well as ASUS.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    OK, that was just a start so keep that for future reference. So, I couldn't answer your question any further until you answered my last question. Now, I have one additional question. When it asks to enter the filesystem, does it give you the capability to "browse" for it or do you just have the option to add something in a text field?
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    OK, that was just a start so keep that for future reference. So, I couldn't answer your question any further until you answered my last question. Now, I have one additional question. When it asks to enter the filesystem, does it give you the capability to "browse" for it or do you just have the option to add something in a text field?
    Only enter a text field, no browsing. See the picture below "Step 5" in my picture gallery. That's what I'm presented with. Only one item. Although the instructions say "select a file system from the list provided," there is only that one item in the list.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    OK then, that makes sense because it is probably not where you need to be at this point. With that said, there has to be a menu that allows you to add items to the boot menu. See this screenshot of the Boot Optons and tell me if it makes any sense to you at this point:

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