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  1. #41


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    Reword.

    You would need the Microsoft official OEM Recovery DVD, to reinstall to a new blank drive
    What you could do is
    Post 138, Item 3.
    System Image - Create in Windows 8

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  2. #42


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    Benko, I don't know what to tell you. Theog seems intent on not directly answering my question with a simple yes or no answer. I think the USB recovery drive "with the recovery partition copied to it" should work, but can't say 100% for sure as I've never done it. I will admit to not knowing. I'd make one anyway if you are going to try running the RTM. I still recommend waiting for the final official release though.
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  3. #43


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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Reword.

    You would need the Microsoft official OEM Recovery DVD, to reinstall to a new blank drive
    What you could do is
    Post 138, Item 3.
    System Image - Create in Windows 8
    It can't hurt to do that as a backup plan.
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  4. #44


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Benko, I don't know what to tell you. Theog seems intent on not directly answering my question with a simple yes or no answer. I think the USB recovery drive "with the recovery partition copied to it" should work, but can't say 100% for sure as I've never done it. I will admit to not knowing. I'd make one anyway if you are going to try running the RTM. I still recommend waiting for the final official release though.
    Technically,, it should work to reinstall windows on a new Harddrive
    weather it will create the recovery partition again I do not know.
    But I do believe that if you have the recovery USB disk that you create initially
    then had to replace the drive and resintall from the recovery disk/usb/whatever, it should work.
    As long as you have the Key as well, unless it is saved in BIOS. I would recover the key as well anyway.

    But, it is going to be like any other PC/Laptop.
    As long as you have the recovery disks, or can get them from the manufacturer, yeah, should work.

    However, the surface pro is not designed to be worked on by average joe.
    So, if you do not have the recovery disk/usb/whatever, you MIGHT have to purchase retail or something and a new key.

    I guess in short,, it's not any different than any other PC/Laptop
    The only exception would be WinRT.
    Last edited by Tepid; 06 Sep 2013 at 19:14.
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  5. #45


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    So alphanumeric, what you want to say is that if I save recovery to USB I should have no problem?
    Yes that's what I am trying to say. I haven't actually done it myself but I don't see why it wouldn't work. For my ASUS laptop according to ASUS, making the recovery drive and copying the recovery partition to it, is supposed to be the equivalent to making a recovery disk set. I did it but never actually tried it. Well I did try it in a way. I swapped my original 750 gig factory drive for a 128 gig SSD and tried to do a recovery. It didn't work, the original partition structure wasn't doable on the smaller SSD.
    Correct, that will not work,,, drives have to be the same size,, in some cases they may have to be the same model.
    The recovery stuff is set to a hidden partition by (I want to say, cluster code?) and tied to F11 or whatever.
    You can create this manually, or use something like this.... Windows 7/8 - OEM Recovery Partition Creator
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  6. #46


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Benko, I don't know what to tell you. Theog seems intent on not directly answering my question with a simple yes or no answer. I think the USB recovery drive "with the recovery partition copied to it" should work, but can't say 100% for sure as I've never done it. I will admit to not knowing. I'd make one anyway if you are going to try running the RTM. I still recommend waiting for the final official release though.
    Technically,, it should work to reinstall windows on a new Harddrive
    weather it will create the recovery partition again I do not know.
    But I do believe that if you have the recovery USB disk that you create initially
    then had to replace the drive and resintall from the recovery disk/usb/whatever, it should work.
    As long as you have the Key as well, unless it is saved in BIOS. I would recover the key as well anyway.

    But, it is going to be like any other PC/Laptop.
    As long as you have the recovery disks, or can get them from the manufacturer, yeah, should work.

    However, the surface pro is not designed to be worked on by average joe.
    So, if you do not have the recovery disk/usb/whatever, you would have to purchase retail or something and a new key.

    I guess in short,, it's not any different than any other PC/Laptop
    The only exception would be WinRT.
    That's what I was thinking. As far as my ASUS laptop goes, there wasn't any utility for creating a set of recovery disks. Not for Windows 8 anyway. According to ASUS, the USB recovery drive (or equivalent disk set of DVD's) was the equivalent of a recovery disk set and was to be used to do a recovery if you couldn't boot into Windows to do it. I never got to actually try it on my original factory installed drive so I can't say for 100% sure that it works. Anyway it can't hurt to make one.
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  7. #47


    Thanks for all info, tomorrow I will create a USB partition with this tutorial
    Increase Surface storage space | USB recovery drive for Surface

    After that will put on another usb iso with this tut(Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way). I think that should work
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  8. #48


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    I still don't recommend what you are trying to do, there is no reason to do it.
    And recommend using VM's instead.
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  9. #49


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    So alphanumeric, what you want to say is that if I save recovery to USB I should have no problem?
    Yes that's what I am trying to say. I haven't actually done it myself but I don't see why it wouldn't work. For my ASUS laptop according to ASUS, making the recovery drive and copying the recovery partition to it, is supposed to be the equivalent to making a recovery disk set. I did it but never actually tried it. Well I did try it in a way. I swapped my original 750 gig factory drive for a 128 gig SSD and tried to do a recovery. It didn't work, the original partition structure wasn't doable on the smaller SSD.
    Correct, that will not work,,, drives have to be the same size,, in some cases they may have to be the same model.
    The recovery stuff is set to a hidden partition by (I want to say, cluster code?) and tied to F11 or whatever.
    You can create this manually, or use something like this.... Windows 7/8 - OEM Recovery Partition Creator
    Windows 7/8 - OEM Recovery Partition Creator

    Although it would seems natural to select the second package (WIM on the last partition), please note that all the scripts use partition number to find their required files. This means that if you resize your Windows partition to create a new partition, the partition number of the last partition (with the recovery image on it) will change, making system recovery impossible.
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  10. #50


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    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Thanks for all info, tomorrow I will create a USB partition with this tutorial
    Increase Surface storage space | USB recovery drive for Surface

    After that will put on another usb iso with this tut(Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way). I think that should work
    You will need a Windows 8.1 Product key to activate, which are not on sale.

    Click image for larger version

    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    You need to wait until 18 October & download from the MS App Store.
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