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  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    By clean install I mean booting ISO from USB not that I will simply just kill whole HDD, just windows partition.

    Just found smth about recovery partition

    "As long as you keep that flash drive safe, you’ll be able to boot from that drive and restore Windows 8 exactly as you had it when you first turned on your Surface Pro. "
    A fresh install would make the Recovery Partition & USB Recovery drive unusable.

    Updating from the MS App store, the Recovery will still be usable.

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post

    Will not do a clean install, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
    What's the difference, I believe in both ways it formats windows partition?!?
    Clean install has no partitions, no windows install, no Recovery partition.
    A clean install using UEFI puts a recovery partition on my drive. A 300Mb Recovery Partition, plus a 100Mb EFI System Partition and then the partition Windows is installed to..
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  3. #23


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post

    What's the difference, I believe in both ways it formats windows partition?!?
    Clean install has no partitions, no windows install, no Recovery partition.
    A clean install using UEFI puts a recovery partition on my drive. A 300Mb Recovery Partition, plus a 100Mb EFI System Partition and then the partition Windows is installed to..
    A fresh install would make the Recovery Partition & USB Recovery drive unusable.
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  4. #24


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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post

    Clean install has no partitions, no windows install, no Recovery partition.
    A clean install using UEFI puts a recovery partition on my drive. A 300Mb Recovery Partition, plus a 100Mb EFI System Partition and then the partition Windows is installed to..
    A fresh install would make the Recovery Partition & USB Recovery drive unusable.
    The original recovery partition would likely not be usable but the new recovery partition would still be usable, you won't be able to do a factory restore but you can do a reset or refresh of Windows 8. Why would the USB recovery drive be unusable. It's bootable and is supposed to restore the original partition layout?
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post

    What's the difference, I believe in both ways it formats windows partition?!?
    Clean install has no partitions, no windows install, no Recovery partition.
    A clean install using UEFI puts a recovery partition on my drive. A 300Mb Recovery Partition, plus a 100Mb EFI System Partition and then the partition Windows is installed to..
    Well, currently I have 2 recovery partitions, so one would be deleted, (the first one) but the main should be untouched in my opinion. Here is mine disk management screenshot
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post

    A clean install using UEFI puts a recovery partition on my drive. A 300Mb Recovery Partition, plus a 100Mb EFI System Partition and then the partition Windows is installed to..
    A fresh install would make the Recovery Partition & USB Recovery drive unusable.
    The original recovery partition would likely not be usable but the new recovery partition would still be usable, you won't be able to do a factory restore but you can do a reset or refresh of Windows 8. Why would the USB recovery drive be unusable. It's bootable and is supposed to restore the original partition layout?
    The OEM manufacturer's USB Recovery drive, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post

    Clean install has no partitions, no windows install, no Recovery partition.
    A clean install using UEFI puts a recovery partition on my drive. A 300Mb Recovery Partition, plus a 100Mb EFI System Partition and then the partition Windows is installed to..
    Well, currently I have 2 recovery partitions, so one would be deleted, (the first one) but the main should be untouched in my opinion. Here is mine disk management screenshot
    Yes but the hook to access the second one is in the boot sector. The manufacturer has linked it so you can run it. A clean install will break the link. Windows 8.1 likely won't see it or access it. If that happens doing a reset or refresh will just refresh or reset Windows 8.1, not your old 8.0 install.
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post

    Clean install has no partitions, no windows install, no Recovery partition.
    A clean install using UEFI puts a recovery partition on my drive. A 300Mb Recovery Partition, plus a 100Mb EFI System Partition and then the partition Windows is installed to..
    Well, currently I have 2 recovery partitions, so one would be deleted, (the first one) but the main should be untouched in my opinion. Here is mine disk management screenshot
    If you delete any of the partitions, this will make the Recovery Partition & OEM manufacturer's USB Recovery drive unusable.
    You will need the Microsoft official OEM Recovery disks to do a clean install.
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post

    A fresh install would make the Recovery Partition & USB Recovery drive unusable.
    The original recovery partition would likely not be usable but the new recovery partition would still be usable, you won't be able to do a factory restore but you can do a reset or refresh of Windows 8. Why would the USB recovery drive be unusable. It's bootable and is supposed to restore the original partition layout?
    The OEM manufacturer's USB Recovery drive, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
    OK fine, but that's what the OP wants it to do? It will restore the original factory 8.0 install. You're saying it would be unusable?
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  10. #30


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post

    The original recovery partition would likely not be usable but the new recovery partition would still be usable, you won't be able to do a factory restore but you can do a reset or refresh of Windows 8. Why would the USB recovery drive be unusable. It's bootable and is supposed to restore the original partition layout?
    The OEM manufacturer's USB Recovery drive, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
    OK fine, but that's what the OP wants it to do? It will restore the original factory 8.0 install. You're saying it would be unusable?
    Updating from the MS App store, the Recovery will still be usable.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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