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  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    What is actually recovery partition, is that an image of the whole OS?

    I can backup it on separate USB, if it's an image...
    information   Information

    We always assume you have made your Recovery Disks using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Media Creator app the first day you had your new PC.
    & made the Startup Repair CD.
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
    System Repair Disc - Create in Windows 8





    You can use the OEM version of
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
    warning   Warning
    Deleting the Recovery Partition is NOT RECOMMENDED


    Will not do a clean install, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.

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  2. #12


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    I have a Surface Pro, and I would not do what you are thinking.

    However, if you need to get the key, Get Speccy
    You can use the Portable Build
    The key should be the serial number under Operating System

    You should make a backup of the Surface Pro Recovery though,,.,, USB recovery drive for Surface

    I wouldn't continue without doing that. And recovering the Key as well.

    Before I continue, I would highly suggest not doing what you are thinking of doing.
    I had thought about it and decided against it myself.

    I had also thought about installing Linux, but again, decided against it.

    The reason is,, you can not be certain that all drivers will get installed properly,, I think.
    They should all update via Windows Update, but there is no telling.

    Chances are everything will run fine, without issue, and it is your choice to try it out.
    For this particular system I would not. I really don't think there is any reason to do it either.

    And I would wait till final release rather than take chances on the old Preview and have to start all over again later.
    If anything, I would set up a Virtual Machine using Hyper-V or VMWare Virtual Player or VirtualBox.
    Hyper-V is available on Surface Pro.

    Your Surface will handle any of those with ease. I personally love it for that.

    To disable Secure Boot.... This was taken from How to install Ubuntu on the Surface Pro | Microsoft | Geek.com

    Go to Charms Bar and Change PC Settings
    then General
    Then Advanced Startup
    When PC reboots
    click Troubleshoot > Advanced Options > UEFI Firmware Settings.

    This will reboot your Surface and take you to an all black screen with two options on it, Security Device Support and Secure Boot Control. Tap the space next to Secure Boot Control that is currently labeled [Enabled] and a menu will pop up prompting you to change it to [Disabled]. Once the menu reflects the correct setting you can tap Exit Setup and the Surface will reboot. You can also reach this menu if you hold down the Volume Up key on the Surface Pro while booting.

    Once Secure Boot is disabled, you will be able to install anything, regardless of whether or not it is signed. Disabling doesn’t have any other effect on your Surface Pro, and Windows 8 won’t behave any differently when you reboot the Surface

    Also, if needed, here is the Official Download Surface Pro firmware and driver pack from Official Microsoft Download Center
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  3. #13


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    What is actually recovery partition, is that an image of the whole OS?

    I can backup it on separate USB, if it's an image...
    On a factory install yes. The wim file is an image of the factory install with all the bloatware etc. If you do a reset from that all the factory installed apps get restored. On a clean install its just windows and the generic drivers. You can make a recovery USB thumb drive and copy the recovery partition to it. Mine was almost 16 gigs for my ASUS laptop.
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  4. #14


    Tnx for the link. I have read before how to copy recovery partition to usb, but didn't know if I could make a fresh install via it. Since this is OEM "PC", I can do that(at least that is what link says). So probably I can easily recover back when needed.

    Will try to make fresh install via that partition and see what happens. If that passes well, will try then Win Blue.

    @Tepid - tnx for the drivers. I see no single reason why that wouldn't work. I never liked any kind of virtualization, so that is not an option. Since know I have drivers, I am sure that will work flawlessly. Oh and got the key, saved it
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  5. #15


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    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Tnx for the link. I have read before how to copy recovery partition to usb, but didn't know if I could make a fresh install via it. Since this is OEM "PC", I can do that(at least that is what link says). So probably I can easily recover back when needed.

    Will try to make fresh install via that partition and see what happens. If that passes well, will try then Win Blue.
    Will not do a clean install, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
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  6. #16


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    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    From what I have read the leaked RTM version will not read your embedded key. Also the leaked install keys will not activate. If that is true you'll have to retrieve your embedded code if you want to activate it. One method is as mentioned above. My advice is to wait for the official release.
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  7. #17


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Tnx for the link. I have read before how to copy recovery partition to usb, but didn't know if I could make a fresh install via it. Since this is OEM "PC", I can do that(at least that is what link says). So probably I can easily recover back when needed.

    Will try to make fresh install via that partition and see what happens. If that passes well, will try then Win Blue.
    Will not do a clean install, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
    ^What he said, it will just restore the image of the original install. It's a recovery not a full install.
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Tnx for the link. I have read before how to copy recovery partition to usb, but didn't know if I could make a fresh install via it. Since this is OEM "PC", I can do that(at least that is what link says). So probably I can easily recover back when needed.

    Will try to make fresh install via that partition and see what happens. If that passes well, will try then Win Blue.
    Will not do a clean install, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
    What's the difference, I believe in both ways it formats windows partition?!?
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benko View Post
    Tnx for the link. I have read before how to copy recovery partition to usb, but didn't know if I could make a fresh install via it. Since this is OEM "PC", I can do that(at least that is what link says). So probably I can easily recover back when needed.

    Will try to make fresh install via that partition and see what happens. If that passes well, will try then Win Blue.
    Will not do a clean install, only overwrites the OEM manufacturer's install.
    What's the difference, I believe in both ways it formats windows partition?!?
    Clean install has no partitions, no windows install, no Recovery partition.
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  10. #20


    By clean install I mean booting ISO from USB not that I will simply just kill whole HDD, just windows partition.

    Just found smth about recovery partition

    "As long as you keep that flash drive safe, you’ll be able to boot from that drive and restore Windows 8 exactly as you had it when you first turned on your Surface Pro. "
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