no UEFI device in boot menu

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csab6597

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I have a desktop PC Acer XC600, the hard disk is formatted in the UEFI-Scheme. Now I want to do a clean install of a fresh Win8, but I cannot manage to boot into UEFI-mode, neither from DVD or USB.

I can reach a boot menu by pressing F12, but there is nothing like shown in the article about installing Win8 in UEFI mode. Only standard bios devices show up. There are simply no UEFI devices. I tried different usb sticks, dvds, formatted them different ways, but the best I can get is the point where setup says "cannot install because the disk is formatted GPT"

But the acutal system is definitely running in UEFI mode (?)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
There has to be a way to set your BIOS to do a UEFI install. In my case, when I hit f12, I am offered a choice of two options on the boot menu and they read something like this:

Windows Boot Manager
Patriot Pyro
Optiarc DVD
UEFI Optiarc DVD

Now, that is not the exact wording. You need to consult you mobo manual for how to set that option on the boot menu.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
OK after hours I got this far:

I try to get an ISO file of Windows 8 64bit onto an USB Stick to install it in UEFI mode.
The device did not show up in the boot menu, because bios obviously does a test if all files are present to start in UEFI mode. On my usb-stick the file \efi\boot\bootx64.efi was missing!!

I followed the instructions given in the article http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html regarding Win7 in chapter 11. This was the first time the usb device was present in the start menu!!

But that file from Win7 does not work with Win8. I got the same file out of the install.wim of the Win8 ISO, and now installation starts, the Win8 logo appears, but soon a message appears complaining about a missing bootloader.efi file. So the problem ist definitely concerning files/bootloader on the stick, not a bios thing.

Now the question ist how to get the bootloader of Win8-UEFI really working?
And I think the article http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html should be changed. The file bootx64.efi must be present also for Win8 setup media.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Use the Windows 8 ISO and install via Acer's recommendations here:

Acer | Manually Upgrade

Check to make sure you are on the latest BIOS here:

BIOSAcerBIOS - UEFI for Windows 8 (Not for Upgrades)P11.A33.1 MB2013/04/17
Acer | Download

That tutorial has worked fine for many "as is" so how can you make a recommendation for change when you haven't been able to complete an install to verify that the change even works?

Good luck and I hope my recommendations get you on the right track.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
OK thanks I hope I can fix my installation media.

I wanted to point out regarding the tutorial:
Step 11. notes that this step is necessary for an installation of windows 7 only, but the presence of bootx64.efi applys to win8 as well, in ordner to be installed using UEFI. Without that file the device does not show in the boot menu.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
OK, so are you saying that with your recommended addition, it does show a UEFI option in your boot menu, and you have tested that the installation now works with your recommended change? If not, my advice is to just follow the Acer tutorial and use the ISO and you should be just fine. Good luck.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
csab6597 said:
OK after hours I got this far:

I try to get an ISO file of Windows 8 64bit onto an USB Stick to install it in UEFI mode.
The device did not show up in the boot menu, because bios obviously does a test if all files are present to start in UEFI mode. On my usb-stick the file \efi\boot\bootx64.efi was missing!!

I followed the instructions given in the article http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html regarding Win7 in chapter 11. This was the first time the usb device was present in the start menu!!

But that file from Win7 does not work with Win8. I got the same file out of the install.wim of the Win8 ISO, and now installation starts, the Win8 logo appears, but soon a message appears complaining about a missing bootloader.efi file. So the problem ist definitely concerning files/bootloader on the stick, not a bios thing.

Now the question ist how to get the bootloader of Win8-UEFI really working?
And I think the article http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html should be changed. The file bootx64.efi must be present also for Win8 setup media.
Click to expand...

The Microsoft official Windows 8 x64 DVD & the Microsoft official ACER OEM manufacturer's Recovery DVD has the files in place.

Where do you buy your DVD from?

information   Information

We always assume you have made your Recovery Disks using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Media Creator app the first day you had your new PC.
& made the Startup Repair CD.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5132-recovery-drive-create-usb-flash-drive-windows-8-a.html
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2855-system-repair-disc-create-windows-8-a.html
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You can use the ACER version of
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5132-recovery-drive-create-usb-flash-drive-windows-8-a.html
warning   Warning
Deleting the Recovery Partition is NOT RECOMMENDED




Did you make the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Disks?

You can order the Microsoft official OEM Recovery disks from your the OEM manufacturer's website.
https://secure.tx.acer.com/RCDB/Main.aspx?brand=acer
or
Acer | Recovery Media
Check in Accessories
or check the main web site.
Acer Worldwide - Select your local country or region
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    Notebooks x 3

    Desktops x 5

    Towers x 4
Ok I got confused myself.
The original ISO from microsoft can be installed right away using the tutorial via an usb drive, that's fine.

I started making my own installation media containing language packs. To have an example of such integrated iso's to see what those files look like I downloaded two files containing different editions in one media. These versions do not have the 64bit bootloader necessary for UEFI. But those files are larger than 4gb so it would not work anyway in UEFI mode. By working around with the files I somehow lost it.

So there are windows installation media around that cannot be installed in UEFI mode, but it is my own fault not to rely on official media...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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