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W8-created recovery disk restore back to resized system?

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    W8-created recovery disk restore back to resized system?


    I've created a recovery disk using the built-in recovery disk generator and selected the option to copy the contents from the OEM recovery partition. This is not a "normal" system image, which creates an image of the current C drive.

    1. Will booting from this recovery drive followed by a restore will restore back to factory conditions?

    2. Is is possible to restore back onto a re-sized system partition? Or, is it necessary to re-create the recovery disk *after* the re-size of the system partition? Or, is there something specific on the OEM recovery partition which states it *must* be restored to the partition size the way it shipped?

    Thanks.

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    What computer are you using?

    1. Unfortunately, I have never tried what you mention. But, I think the answer would have to be yes.

    2. I am not sure how the recovery disc generator works. But, I guess that it would create a recovery disk that would work after resizing (I assume you are talking about shrinking). I guess the unallocated space created by shrinking would be allowed for somehow, but definitely don't know. And, what would happen if a dual boot of, say, another Win8 had been installed in the unallocated space?

    Not exactly what you are thinking about, but consider using this tutorial after resizing the system partition (before or after installing software): Refresh Windows 8 - Create and Use Custom Recovery Image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    What computer are you using?
    Sorry, I've updated my profile - Lenovo Yoga 13

    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    1. Unfortunately, I have never tried what you mention. But, I think the answer would have to be yes.
    According to this tutorial - Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8 - in the "Note" - how to create the recovery drive and *include* the recovery partitions's contents - this drive *cannot* be used to reinstall windows. Makes me wonder why Windows would ask if you would like to copy the contents of the recovery partition then if it can't be used to reinstall windows.

    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Not exactly what you are thinking about, but consider using this tutorial after resizing the system partition (before or after installing software): Refresh Windows 8 - Create and Use Custom Recovery Image.
    OK, thanks for the tip. Yeah, I plan to make a new image after the fresh W8 install.

    But, I simply want a way to go back to what's on my OEM's recovery partition. Lenovo's W8-compatible backup/restore software cannot generate a set of DVD's to repartition and restore the entire hard drive, but rather, only restores the recovery to the system drive, but the system drive *must* remain untouched as far as re-partitioning goes, and that would surely happen when I install generic W8 from install.

    Perhaps that tutorial at the link above is wrong after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floepie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    1. Unfortunately, I have never tried what you mention. But, I think the answer would have to be yes.
    According to this tutorial - Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8 - in the "Note" - how to create the recovery drive and *include* the recovery partitions's contents - this drive *cannot* be used to reinstall windows. Makes me wonder why Windows would ask if you would like to copy the contents of the recovery partition then if it can't be used to reinstall windows.

    Note that what I said in 1 is not related to your above comment.

    Haven't looked at the tutorial yet; I'll read it later and get back to you--but off to the gym right now.

    Edit: I have looked at the tutorial now. Note that a more complete quote from the tutorial would have been

    "
    A recovery USB flash drive cannot be used to install Windows 8 unless this is an OEM PC that came with Windows 8 preinstalled, and you checked the Copy contents from the recovery partition to the recovery drive box at step 5 below."

    So, a recovery USB created via the tutorial can be used, given one's selection, to install (refresh or reset) Windows 8.
    Last edited by znod; 21 Mar 2013 at 13:35.
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    I am in a very similar situation. I have two SSD drives I plan on installing in my laptop. I'm waiting for a drive caddy for the second drive bay to arrive. I'm thinking you can use the Recovery drive, mine is a 16 GB thumb drive, to reinstall Windows. You do a Reset and it uses the install.wim file that's on it. It "should" restore it back to factory condition. I'm not sure what happens if you try it on a blank drive but at some point I may find out. I also have the option of cloning from one drive to the other. One of my Crucial drives came with a transfer kit. At this point I think I'm going to try the transfer kit first. If that fails I'll boot from my Recovery drive and try a reset. I also have an image I created with the Windows 7 File Recovery utility. If none of that works I'll do a clean install.
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    This is a tutorial by Lenovo using the Windows 8 USB Drive Recovery app.

    Methodology to create Recovery Media and reload a Lenovo Think system with Microsoft Windows 8 preload


    Quote Originally Posted by Lenovo
    NOTE: From this point forward in the recovery process, the choices for actual operating system recovery depend on the existing state of the computer hard drive.

    Below are the instructions if there is an existing Microsoft Windows 8 install on the hard drive.
    1.Select the target operating system of Microsoft Windows 8 to reload over existing Lenovo preload.
    2.Select "Yes" to repartition the drives or "No" to keep existing partitions. For a clean install, the drives should be repartitioned.
    3.Select "Fully Clean the drive".
    4.Click Reset to begin the process.
    5.The reset/recovery process takes approximately 90 minutes.
    6.Once the reset/recovery is complete, the system will reboot into Microsoft Windows 8.

    Below are the instructions if the hard drive is blank.
    1.Select "Yes" to repartition the HDD or "No" to keep the existing partitions.
    2.Click either choice, but these instructions follow the repartition scenario.
    3.Select "Fully Clean the drive" as this will take several minutes to complete.
    4.Click Reset to begin the process.
    5.The reset/recovery process takes approximately 90 minutes.
    6.Once the reset/recovery is complete, the system will reboot into Microsoft Windows 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floepie View Post
    According to this tutorial - Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8 - in the "Note" - how to create the recovery drive and *include* the recovery partitions's contents - this drive *cannot* be used to reinstall windows. Makes me wonder why Windows would ask if you would like to copy the contents of the recovery partition then if it can't be used to reinstall windows.
    Note these comments at the start of the tutorial:

    "This will show you how to create a bootable recovery (system repair) USB flash drive in Windows 8 to use to boot to the system recovery options that can be used to help recover Windows 8.

    This is basically the same thing as a system repair disc, but is on a bootable USB flash drive instead."

    In this regard, a system repair disc can be used to do a refresh or reset. Not sure what happens if you try a refresh or reset on an OEM preinstalled Win8. Would the bloatware not be installed? Don't see how it could persist through a refresh or reset.
    Last edited by znod; 21 Mar 2013 at 13:36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    This is a tutorial by Lenovo using the Windows 8 USB Drive Recovery app.

    Methodology to create Recovery Media and reload a Lenovo Think system with Microsoft Windows 8 preload


    Quote Originally Posted by Lenovo
    NOTE: From this point forward in the recovery process, the choices for actual operating system recovery depend on the existing state of the computer hard drive.

    Below are the instructions if there is an existing Microsoft Windows 8 install on the hard drive.
    1.Select the target operating system of Microsoft Windows 8 to reload over existing Lenovo preload.
    2.Select "Yes" to repartition the drives or "No" to keep existing partitions. For a clean install, the drives should be repartitioned.
    3.Select "Fully Clean the drive".
    4.Click Reset to begin the process.
    5.The reset/recovery process takes approximately 90 minutes.
    6.Once the reset/recovery is complete, the system will reboot into Microsoft Windows 8.

    Below are the instructions if the hard drive is blank.
    1.Select "Yes" to repartition the HDD or "No" to keep the existing partitions.
    2.Click either choice, but these instructions follow the repartition scenario.
    3.Select "Fully Clean the drive" as this will take several minutes to complete.
    4.Click Reset to begin the process.
    5.The reset/recovery process takes approximately 90 minutes.
    6.Once the reset/recovery is complete, the system will reboot into Microsoft Windows 8.
    Interesting. The instructions seem clear. Just checking to be sure. Apparently, doing a refresh or a reset using the Lenovo instructions would reinstall whatever bloatware came on the computer too, right? Would it work at all if the system partition had been shrunk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by floepie View Post

    Sorry, I've updated my profile - Lenovo Yoga 13

    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    1. Unfortunately, I have never tried what you mention. But, I think the answer would have to be yes.
    According to this tutorial - Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8 - in the "Note" - how to create the recovery drive and *include* the recovery partitions's contents - this drive *cannot* be used to reinstall windows. Makes me wonder why Windows would ask if you would like to copy the contents of the recovery partition then if it can't be used to reinstall windows.
    On a non-Pre-install Windows 8 PC's, the option to copy Recovery Partition is greyed out.

    Click image for larger version
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    Screenshot from a ASUS manual for Pre-Install Windows 8.

    Click image for larger version

    Problem is, it is for Windows 7.
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