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    Downgrade question


    Hi,

    I've been searching the forum on the subject of downgrading to Win 7 but haven't found the answer to my question. I would like to know if it is possible to downgrade a pre-installed Win 8 (not pro) using a Retail Win 7 Upgrade? Hoping that someone here can answer that for me, thanks.

    Sunny

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    Welcome. If running UEFI, then check this tutorial out: Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7. [Insert (1) below.]

    Not running under UEFI? Then, I'd do the first 4 steps here: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation. Then, I'd just install Win7 cleanly (upgrade disc covered here too). [Insert (2) below.]

    In either case, if you have an embedded product key, then that probably will do the trick for a Win7 install. If not, then, you'll, of course, need o use a separate product key.

    Edit: What's above is expanded upon via the inserts below given later discussions.

    (1): You are likely to need a retail full install 64-bit Win7 DVD. I know that at least Premium and up have UEFI support. Using your presumably 64-bit upgrade disc wouldn't be appropriate if it relates to a prior upgrade of an OEM preinstalled XP or Vista. Such an upgrade would be machine specific. At least Premium and up upgrade discs have UEFI support.

    (2): You are likely to need a retail full install 32 bit or 64-bit Win7 DVD. UEFI support is not needed. As above, using your upgrade disc wouldn't be appropriate if it relates to a prior upgrade of an OEM preinstalled XP or Vista.
    Last edited by znod; 16 Mar 2013 at 09:05.
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    Hi Znod,

    I already had a look at that Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7 tutorial and that's just too complicated for me
    You mentioned needing a seperate product key and I realized that my initial question wasn't that clear, but I meant using a windows 7 upgrade with a key and use it like you would to upgrade from XP or Vista only just backwards from Win 8 to 7. Hope my question is clear now and that you (or someone else) know if this is possible.

    Thanks.
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    No matter on downgrade; you are not running UEFI anyway apparently. On the rest, I understood before. I answered above--post #2. Post back if you don't understand.
    Last edited by znod; 14 Mar 2013 at 10:08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunburst View Post
    Hi Znod,

    I already had a look at that Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7 tutorial and that's just too complicated for me
    You mentioned needing a seperate product key and I realized that my initial question wasn't that clear, but I meant using a windows 7 upgrade with a key and use it like you would to upgrade from XP or Vista only just backwards from Win 8 to 7. Hope my question is clear now and that you (or someone else) know if this is possible.

    Thanks.
    NO, you will need a FULL version of Windows 7 x64.
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    Don't understand. Upgrade install Win7. None of these methods will work? Is his embedded product key the problem? If not, then what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Don't understand. Upgrade install Win7. None of these methods will work? Is his embedded product key the problem? If not, then what?
    Windows 8 core Pre-install, has no downgrade rights.

    Windows 7 upgrade has NO original software to upgrade from.
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    On the second point, I am assuming that he "legally" upgraded to Win7 from prior software in the first place. My recollection is that the qualifying software need not be installed to do a clean upgrade install. In this regard, the turtorial says:

    "Remember that you need to legally own a valid qualifying previous version of Windows to use a Upgrade Windows 7, and to stop using (or uninstall) the qualifying OS while you have the upgrade installed. Microsoft only made doing a clean install from a upgrade Windows 7 possible to make it more convenient so you do not have to reinstall both the old Windows version (ex: Vista) and upgrade to Windows 7 everytime you needed or wanted to reinstall."

    From reading the comments on the tutorial, etc., I still get the feeling that Win7 upgrade could be installed.
    Last edited by znod; 15 Mar 2013 at 19:46.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunburst View Post
    Hi Znod,

    I already had a look at that Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7 tutorial and that's just too complicated for me
    You mentioned needing a seperate product key and I realized that my initial question wasn't that clear, but I meant using a windows 7 upgrade with a key and use it like you would to upgrade from XP or Vista only just backwards from Win 8 to 7. Hope my question is clear now and that you (or someone else) know if this is possible.

    Thanks.
    NO, you will need a FULL version of Windows 7 x64.

    Hi there
    I think the OP says he has a RETAIL version of W7 -- You can of course do a complete W7 install from an "Upgrade retail version".
    OEM W7 editions won't work in this way.

    There are tutorials on this forum on how to do that. Seems self explanatory to me though --not sure what the problem is.
    Format Disk and then do clean install. You might like to take an image backup before you start in case you want to try W8 again though.

    Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version - Windows 7 Help Forums
    cheers
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    using a Retail Win 7 Upgrade?
    The OP would still need original software to upgrade from.

    Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version - Windows 7 Help Forums

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