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  1. #31


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    True but he did say "It used the embedded keys each time, gave me 8 pro where appropriate, and 8 standard when appropriate." If the Acers weren't licensed for Windows 8 from the factory they wouldn't have the embedded keys and there would not have been any auto detection of what version to install. He would have been asked to enter a product code manually during the install.

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  2. #32


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If the PC didn't originally come from the factory with Windows 8 preinstalled it would not have an embedded product key in its BIOS. In that case you would be prompted to enter a valid product code during the install. Pparks can clarify this but I do not believe he is reimaging the PC's, he is doing a clean install. It's not recovery media its actual Windows install media. It just happened to be supplied by Dell.
    You are 100% correct here. I am not imaging, I am doing clean installs.

    In the past with Dell, I would get media with PC's (XP, Vista, 7). These DVD's would install and just auto activate on the Dell hardware. But I couldn't use these disks with other machines as they would recognize they weren't on a Dell and wouldn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    With the new embedded keys, it doesn't matter if the media came from Dell, HP or Lenovo, as long as the PC itself has the embedded Windows 8 key in the BIOS, you can reload Windows from whatever media you have, you won't have to enter a key and you will be automatically activated. You can use Technet media, or MSDN media, or whatever media you happen to have. It will read the key from the BIOS, install and activate the version you are licensed for.





    My ASUS laptop came preinstalled with Windows 8. When I do an install with my MSDN ISO the embedded product code is auto detected and Windows 8 (core) is installed. That is what my product code is good for. I'm not prompted to enter a code and it activates online as soon as you connect to the internet. To install 8 Pro I have to use the add features option and type in a new 8 Pro product code.
    Yes, exactly correct. I've had to do the same thing.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I created the bootable Windows 8 USB key as follows,

    o Diskpart
    o List disk (make note of the # of your USB key)
    o Select disk # (choose the number from previous step)
    o Clean
    o Create partition primary
    o Format fs=fat32 quick
    o Active
    o Assign

    Then, I took the Dell Windows 8 ISO file, used 7zip to extract the files in the ISO to that USB key.

    The key is now ready to boot Windows 8 and install.
    I used the Windows 7 DVD Download Tool to make my Bootable USB Windows 8 install thumb drive. It can be finicky with some ISO files but works most of the time. Installs are so much faster from a USB thumb drive that I can't imagine going back to using a DVD. a lot easier to carry around and no worries about scratching the disk.
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  4. #34


    Quote Originally Posted by aem View Post
    He didn't actually specified that the Acers were w8 licensed from factory. Any issues with licensing should be apparent once you do a Windows Update, and after the info is been traced by MS, till then it's anyone's guess.
    You are correct, I apologize for the confusion. The key words were the "embedded keys" which are in the BIOS. If the Acers didn't come with Windows 8, those keys would not be embedded. I made the assumption people would follow here.
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  5. #35


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I created the bootable Windows 8 USB key as follows,

    o Diskpart
    o List disk (make note of the # of your USB key)
    o Select disk # (choose the number from previous step)
    o Clean
    o Create partition primary
    o Format fs=fat32 quick
    o Active
    o Assign

    Then, I took the Dell Windows 8 ISO file, used 7zip to extract the files in the ISO to that USB key.

    The key is now ready to boot Windows 8 and install.
    I used the Windows 7 DVD Download Tool to make my Bootable USB Windows 8 install thumb drive. It can be finicky with some ISO files but works most of the time. Installs are so much faster from a USB thumb drive that I can't imagine going back to using a DVD. a lot easier to carry around and no worries about scratching the disk.

    I historically have done it with the Windows 7 USB downloader tool as well. However I found that with Windows 8 and UEFI and GPT, that tool wouldn't create the UEFI bootable USB key...thus it would only boot in legacy mode rather than UEFI mode with Secure Boot.
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  6. #36


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    OK, for what its worth I had no problems doing a UEFI install on my ASUS laptop to GPT partitioned disk. Mine was an MSDN ISO, I'm not sure if that makes any difference though. My desktop PC's don't have UEFI.
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  7. #37


    I've mostly used the MSDN CD's as well. I couldn't get my Acers, or HP's, or Dell's which were set for UEFI and Secure Boot enabled to boot the USB key created by the Windows 7 USB DVD download tool. Perhaps it's because I used a Windows 7 box without UEFI or Secure Boot when I created the media.

    The USB key kicked out of that tool would boot, but only if i enabled legacy boot. And when I did that, I got standard MBR partitioning on the hard drive rather than the GPT style with 4 partitions.

    Thanks for the feedback on your experiences with the tool. It's good to provide info for others going down this same road.
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  8. #38


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    No problem, UEFI is new to me so I'm just taking thinks as they go. I half expected to have problems after seeing other peoples experiences and problems with it. Just lucky I guess.

    EDIT: Now that I think about it, my laptop was originally offered with Windows 7 preinstalled. I'm thinking ASUS updated it for Windows 8 and added the UEFI. It's pretty basic. It doesn't really stand out from any other BIOS menu I've used in the past. Hard to say but maybe that made my install easier?
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  9. #39


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by aem View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Was able to take a Dell copy of Windows 8, make an uefi bootable usb key, install onto my Dell, and also onto some acers in my office. It used the embedded keys each time, gave me 8 pro where appropriate, and 8 standard when appropriate. No hassles, activated immediately, no calls to robo activation at Microsoft. Good times.
    Have you run Windows Updates on all the machines, if so any issues? From what you say it seems very close to piracy.
    That's called a new feature of new Windows PCs of cooked in Windows license keys. That PREVENTS piracy.

    Also quite a joy to do a clean reinstall of Windows on one of the newer ones...
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  10. #40


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by aem View Post
    I just reread this

    "Was able to take a Dell copy of Windows 8, make an uefi bootable usb key, install onto my Dell, and also onto some acers in my office. It used the embedded keys each time, gave me 8 pro where appropriate, and 8 standard when appropriate. No hassles, activated immediately, no calls to robo activation at Microsoft. Good times."

    Let me get this straight.

    He took a Dell copy of Windows 8 (presummably media supplied when he bought his Windows 8 pc). He then makes a bootable USB from it (fine). He then reimage his Acers with this USB image. ... He then said Good times.

    So the Acers already have Windows 8 licences from factory? What if the Acers have XP from factory?
    With the Fujitsu Windows 8 DVD, installing on an non-embedded product key PC, you need to type in a product key.
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