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Dual Boot XP with 8 (Laptop pre-installed 8)

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    Dual Boot XP with 8 (Laptop pre-installed 8)


    Hi,
    Thats what the tittle says, got a laptop that came with windows 8 pre-installed.
    I really need to use windows xp, and no, virtual machine won't work with the software I'm using.
    Only options I got is either get dual boot to work with xp and 8 or I'll just get rid of 8 and install xp.
    Don't really want to get rid of 8 but if theres no choice...
    So if someone knows how to do it, please help me out.

    Thanks

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    I am not sure I will be able to help you, but one preliminary question--are you running under BIOS or UEFI?
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    Follow this thread and the link in it...it tells you everything you need to know.

    Dual-booting Windows 8 and XP
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    I am not sure I will be able to help you, but one preliminary question--are you running under BIOS or UEFI?
    I really don't know the difference but by default windows 8 should run under EUFI, so I say its EUFI.
    It starts up, shows BIOS screen and then a Asus screen with the doted circle (loading)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassfisher6522 View Post
    Follow this thread and the link in it...it tells you everything you need to know.

    Dual-booting Windows 8 and XP
    Thanks, I checked the linked and the situation is a bit different because I got it installed in a Gpt HDD, although I checked the other link inside that one (about dual booting 7 and xp) and I looks like it could work.
    The only thing that concerns me is that Gpt thing.
    But I'll give it a try.
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    If running under UEFI, GPT is used. Only 64-bit XP will run under GPT. Are going with 64-bit XP? Where I am going it toward what you need to do to install your dual boot under UEFI.

    You probably are correct that you are under UEFI. To be sure, you could run msconfig; get system info (under tools); and see what BIOS mode your are under--legacy or UEFI.

    Will you be installing on a partitioned disk or two separate disks? A disk cannot be both GPT and MBR (except that every GPT disk must contain a "protective" MBR). I make this observation, FYI, in case your are thinking of installing 32-bit XP. If so, you would be limited to MBR--which is inconsistent with UEFI. I assume you probably would be installing on a partitioned disk since you have a laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    If running under UEFI, GPT is used. Only 64-bit XP will run under GPT. Are going with 64-bit XP? Where I am going it toward what you need to do to install your dual boot under UEFI.

    You probably are correct that you are under UEFI. To be sure, you could run msconfig; get system info (under tools); and see what BIOS mode your are under--legacy or UEFI.

    Will you be installing on a partitioned disk or two separate disks? A disk cannot be both GPT and MBR (except that every GPT disk must contain a "protective" MBR). I make this observation, FYI, in case your are thinking of installing 32-bit XP. If so, you would be limited to MBR--which is inconsistent with UEFI. I assume you probably would be installing on a partitioned disk since you have a laptop.
    Yup, just checked its UEFI.
    Well the software I am using can run under xp 64-bit so its fine, and yes I'll make a partition in my HDD to install xp.
    So, according to your info, I can install xp 64bit in a different partition without any problems? Just like a normal install?
    Or do I have to do anything special?

    off-topic: Haven't been here for a while now, but this is still the same Really nice and polite people. Ty
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiogoCDS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    If running under UEFI, GPT is used. Only 64-bit XP will run under GPT. Are going with 64-bit XP? Where I am going it toward what you need to do to install your dual boot under UEFI.

    You probably are correct that you are under UEFI. To be sure, you could run msconfig; get system info (under tools); and see what BIOS mode your are under--legacy or UEFI.

    Will you be installing on a partitioned disk or two separate disks? A disk cannot be both GPT and MBR (except that every GPT disk must contain a "protective" MBR). I make this observation, FYI, in case your are thinking of installing 32-bit XP. If so, you would be limited to MBR--which is inconsistent with UEFI. I assume you probably would be installing on a partitioned disk since you have a laptop.
    Yup, just checked its UEFI.
    Well the software I am using can run under xp 64-bit so its fine, and yes I'll make a partition in my HDD to install xp.
    So, according to your info, I can install xp 64bit in a different partition without any problems? Just like a normal install?
    Or do I have to do anything special?

    off-topic: Haven't been here for a while now, but this is still the same Really nice and polite people. Ty
    Yes, so far so good.

    I need to rethink what you'd need to do--given preinstalled Win8.
    Last edited by znod; 24 Feb 2013 at 11:40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DiogoCDS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    If running under UEFI, GPT is used. Only 64-bit XP will run under GPT. Are going with 64-bit XP? Where I am going it toward what you need to do to install your dual boot under UEFI.

    You probably are correct that you are under UEFI. To be sure, you could run msconfig; get system info (under tools); and see what BIOS mode your are under--legacy or UEFI.

    Will you be installing on a partitioned disk or two separate disks? A disk cannot be both GPT and MBR (except that every GPT disk must contain a "protective" MBR). I make this observation, FYI, in case your are thinking of installing 32-bit XP. If so, you would be limited to MBR--which is inconsistent with UEFI. I assume you probably would be installing on a partitioned disk since you have a laptop.
    Yup, just checked its UEFI.
    Well the software I am using can run under xp 64-bit so its fine, and yes I'll make a partition in my HDD to install xp.
    So, according to your info, I can install xp 64bit in a different partition without any problems? Just like a normal install?
    Or do I have to do anything special?

    off-topic: Haven't been here for a while now, but this is still the same Really nice and polite people. Ty
    Yes, so far so good.

    Normally, I would say start here Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista, and keep following your nose until done. But, I am having trouble figuring out why this tutorial mentions only Win7 and Vista. It makes me wonder if there is an XP trap in following this path. The only thing that comes immediately to mind is that maybe 64-bit XP won't work properly in a dual boot with Win8 under UEFI/GPT. So, I am looking around for an answer to why the tutorial does not also mention XP. Will looking, I post again below with some other thoughts.
    Well if you can't figure that out is fine, what would be needed to do if I install the 32bit version?
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    I changed my preceding post. I need to rethink. There are two problems, (1) the XP thing I mentioned originally in the quoted material above, and (2) you have preinstalled Win8. Will try to come up with something and get back to you. I think that my only solution would be pretty extreme--involving obliterating your OEM install. Backing off to XP 32-bit would not substantially change things.

    Edit: On the thread linked above by bassfisher6522, note that theog says:

    "All the above will not work with your NEW Preinstalled Windows 8.
    As Windows XP will not install to a GPT HD Drive setup.

    You will need to use a VM.

    VirtualBox - Install Windows 8

    VMware Player - Install Windows 8"

    I started apparently with misinformation indicating that 64-bit XP would install on a GPT HDD.

    So, you would have to back off from UEFI/GPT. From here, I am not sure if there is a basic problem installing Win8 and XP as a dual boot under MBR. You would think it would work, but I still wonder why this tutorial, Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista, mentions only Win7 and Vista. It makes me wonder if there is an XP trap in following its path under legacy BIOS/MBR.

    If you can get over this hump, then a conceivable extreme solution would be to obliterate your factory install, install XP first, and, then install Win8 second--using MS full install system builder software (under the personal use license).

    I'll leave it to others to say thumbs up or thumbs down to this idea--which has a definite incremental cost. As you said at the outset, you will obliterate and install XP if you can't come up with a satisfactory dual-boot solution. So, two questions: (1) will what I mention lead to a satisfactory dual boot (i.e., is there some reason Win8 and XP can't be dual booted satisfactorily under legacy BIOS/MBR)? and (2) Is doing so worth the cost (it would be to me).
    Last edited by znod; 24 Feb 2013 at 12:30.
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