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Dual Boot XP with 8 (Laptop pre-installed 8)

  1. #11


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    Alright, thank you very much.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    I changed my preceding post. I need to rethink. There are two problems, (1) the XP thing I mentioned originally in the quoted material above, and (2) you have preinstalled Win8. Will try to come up with something and get back to you. I think that my only solution would be pretty extreme--involving obliterating your OEM install. Backing off to XP 32-bit would not substantially change things.

    There are several here that have virtually complete knowledge when dealing with difficult installation issues. I think of this one as difficult, and it definitely is something I have not experienced personally. Maybe theog or Brink will chime in.

    Edit: On the thread linked above by bassfisher6522, note that theog says:

    "All the above will not work with your NEW Preinstalled Windows 8.
    As Windows XP will not install to a GPT HD Drive setup.

    You will need to use a VM.

    VirtualBox - Install Windows 8

    VMware Player - Install Windows 8"

    I started apparently with misinformation indicating that 64-bit XP would install on a GPT HDD.

    So, you would have to back off from UEFI/GPT. From here, I am not sure if there is a basic problem installing Win8 and XP as a dual boot under MBR. You would think it would work, but I still wonder why this tutorial, Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista, mentions only Win7 and Vista. It makes me wonder if there is an XP trap in following this path under legacy BIOS/MBR.

    If you can get over this hump, then a conceivable extreme solution would be to obliterate your factory install, install XP first and, then install Win8 second--using MS full install system builder software (under the personal use license).

    I'll leave it to others to say thumbs up or thumbs down to this idea.
    Yeh, thats why I asked.
    Anyway I don't want to reinstall windows 8, so I'll just do a clean install of windows xp.
    Thanks for you help.

    edit:
    I wanted to be able to install xp straight away, without the need to format the drive install 8 then install xp.
    That is my friend's laptop that he uses for work, he doesn't really need or want windows 8.
    But I was checking if it was possible to install xp without removing 8.
    But is not big deal windows xp is what he needs for his job, also virtual machines do not work with the software he uses.
    Last edited by DiogoCDS; 24 Feb 2013 at 12:39.
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  3. #13


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    You are very welcome. Good luck with your XP install.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    I changed my preceding post. I need to rethink. There are two problems, (1) the XP thing I mentioned originally in the quoted material above, and (2) you have preinstalled Win8. Will try to come up with something and get back to you. I think that my only solution would be pretty extreme--involving obliterating your OEM install. Backing off to XP 32-bit would not substantially change things.

    Edit: On the thread linked above by bassfisher6522, note that theog says:

    "All the above will not work with your NEW Preinstalled Windows 8.
    As Windows XP will not install to a GPT HD Drive setup.

    You will need to use a VM.

    VirtualBox - Install Windows 8

    VMware Player - Install Windows 8"

    I started apparently with misinformation indicating that 64-bit XP would install on a GPT HDD.

    So, you would have to back off from UEFI/GPT. From here, I am not sure if there is a basic problem installing Win8 and XP as a dual boot under MBR. You would think it would work, but I still wonder why this tutorial, Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista, mentions only Win7 and Vista. It makes me wonder if there is an XP trap in following its path under legacy BIOS/MBR.

    If you can get over this hump, then a conceivable extreme solution would be to obliterate your factory install, install XP first, and, then install Win8 second--using MS full install system builder software (under the personal use license).

    I'll leave it to others to say thumbs up or thumbs down to this idea--which has a definite incremental cost. As you said at the outset, you will obliterate and install XP if you can't come up with a satisfactory dual-boot solution. So, two questions: (1) will what I mention lead to a satisfactory dual boot (i.e., is there some reason Win8 and XP can't be dual booted satisfactorily under legacy BIOS/MBR)? and (2) Is doing so worth the cost (it would be to me).
    I do not support installing Win XP on new consumer OEM Desktops & Notebooks with Windows 8 Core Pre-Install, as OEM's have no Win XP driver or BIOS support.

    I would look for a new Business OEM Desktop or Notebook with Windows 8 Pro Pre-Install, with Win XP driver & BIOS support.


    or you could use your Asus P5Q Deluxe for Win XP install.
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    I changed my preceding post. I need to rethink. There are two problems, (1) the XP thing I mentioned originally in the quoted material above, and (2) you have preinstalled Win8. Will try to come up with something and get back to you. I think that my only solution would be pretty extreme--involving obliterating your OEM install. Backing off to XP 32-bit would not substantially change things.

    Edit: On the thread linked above by bassfisher6522, note that theog says:

    "All the above will not work with your NEW Preinstalled Windows 8.
    As Windows XP will not install to a GPT HD Drive setup.

    You will need to use a VM.

    VirtualBox - Install Windows 8

    VMware Player - Install Windows 8"

    I started apparently with misinformation indicating that 64-bit XP would install on a GPT HDD.

    So, you would have to back off from UEFI/GPT. From here, I am not sure if there is a basic problem installing Win8 and XP as a dual boot under MBR. You would think it would work, but I still wonder why this tutorial, Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista, mentions only Win7 and Vista. It makes me wonder if there is an XP trap in following its path under legacy BIOS/MBR.

    If you can get over this hump, then a conceivable extreme solution would be to obliterate your factory install, install XP first, and, then install Win8 second--using MS full install system builder software (under the personal use license).

    I'll leave it to others to say thumbs up or thumbs down to this idea--which has a definite incremental cost. As you said at the outset, you will obliterate and install XP if you can't come up with a satisfactory dual-boot solution. So, two questions: (1) will what I mention lead to a satisfactory dual boot (i.e., is there some reason Win8 and XP can't be dual booted satisfactorily under legacy BIOS/MBR)? and (2) Is doing so worth the cost (it would be to me).
    I do not support installing Win XP on new consumer OEM Desktops & Notebooks with Windows 8 Core Pre-Install, as OEM's have no Win XP driver or BIOS support.

    I would look for a new Business OEM Desktop or Notebook with Windows 8 Pro Pre-Install, with Win XP driver & BIOS support.


    or you could use your Asus P5Q Deluxe for Win XP install.
    Thanks for you input.
    I'll install xp and see how it goes.

    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    or you could use your Asus P5Q Deluxe for Win XP install.
    What you mean with this?
    Really don't get it
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by DiogoCDS View Post
    Hi,
    Thats what the tittle says, got a laptop that came with windows 8 pre-installed.
    I really need to use windows xp, and no, virtual machine won't work with the software I'm using.
    Only options I got is either get dual boot to work with xp and 8 or I'll just get rid of 8 and install xp.
    Don't really want to get rid of 8 but if theres no choice...
    So if someone knows how to do it, please help me out.

    Thanks
    Your Notebook is a OEM Notebooks with Windows 8 Core Pre-Install.

    Your Asus P5Q Deluxe supports Win XP.
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  7. #17


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    ~theog:

    Makes total sense--new hardware, etc., would not work with XP on a new OEM pre-install consumer machine. And, makes total sense that XP and Win8 could be dual booted provided that the BIOS/driver issues are dealt with--as on business machines. In this regard, my assumption is that XP is not incorporated into Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista because of the substantial uncertainties related to BIOS/driver support for consumer PC's in general. Thank you for the information; it helped me a great deal.
    Last edited by znod; 24 Feb 2013 at 19:06.
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiogoCDS View Post
    Hi,
    Thats what the tittle says, got a laptop that came with windows 8 pre-installed.
    I really need to use windows xp, and no, virtual machine won't work with the software I'm using.
    Only options I got is either get dual boot to work with xp and 8 or I'll just get rid of 8 and install xp.
    Don't really want to get rid of 8 but if theres no choice...
    So if someone knows how to do it, please help me out.

    Thanks
    Your Notebook is a OEM Notebooks with Windows 8 Core Pre-Install.

    Your Asus P5Q Deluxe supports Win XP.
    Hmm yes but the laptop isn't mine.
    Just said it was a friends laptop in a last edit.
    Sorry about the confusion.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by DiogoCDS View Post
    Hi,
    Thats what the tittle says, got a laptop that came with windows 8 pre-installed.
    I really need to use windows xp, and no, virtual machine won't work with the software I'm using.
    Only options I got is either get dual boot to work with xp and 8 or I'll just get rid of 8 and install xp.
    Don't really want to get rid of 8 but if theres no choice...
    So if someone knows how to do it, please help me out.

    Thanks
    Hey! I just experienced the EXACT problem with yours, using winxp supported programs only (Don't ask why im not using windows 7/8 supported programs, they just dont support anything other than XP). Done this using windows 8 preinstalled ASUS vivobook

    So.
    Reformat your HDD to MBR. (Yes, take it out and reformat externally)

    <Be sure to have either the OEM recovery cd/dvd or create a default system image, just in case you wanna go back to windows 8,No matter what happens you can't create a recovery CD/DVD, Tried and tested within a span of a FULL month>

    -Once formatted, enter BIOS(UEFI) page.
    -Disable the secure boot, and fast startup.
    -Enable CSM (Compatiblilty Support Manager) & change the SATA configurations from AHCI to IDE

    With that done, you should be able to install Win XP 32bit*.

    And if you wanna recovery win 8, please re-format and change the Partioning to GPT, Disable CSM, Change IDE back to AHCI and you should be running win 8 again.
    The only thing you have to worry about when doing this method is warranty and also drivers. So.... Goodluck with it (:


    *Have not tried the WinXPP SP3 64bit yet
    *Dual booting should NOT be able, as the partitioning table is different. But again if someone managed to do it, please share with the rest of us!


    If the explaination is vague, feel free to PM, will be glad to help!
    Cheers!
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