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Installing XP AFTER Win 8?

  1. #51


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    Quote Originally Posted by cybor462 View Post
    mancman That is exactly what I am trying to do. I bought a new HP with 8 installed. I have an XP drive from my old HP running great with all the software I am trying to keep. I can get at the bios but the drive will start loading and when it gets to the XP splash screen it reboots. I feel its because I do not have the drivers for the new board. I am not a techie so I do not know how to get the new drivers into my XP. The only way I ever did that was when the system was new and it sought out drivers for printers and the like but I think the system drivers go on at install am I correct?
    My issue is I cant reinstall the XP because #1 I will lose all my web installed software (have a ton of it) from years ago when it installed from the web and you did not get the files. My XP license went invalid when I had my processor fry on the old system and I installed a new one. I had the system on Hard Drive so it did not matter until I tried to lay down a fresh install after virus issues and I found out the serial # on the new chip was different. HP no longer had the restore discs (this system is 10 years old) so they told me to call Microsoft, buy they were no longer supporting the keys for XP so I have to keep this drive intact.
    I have software on this drive that is no longer supported like all my audio studios Acid and Sound forge, Quickbooks Pro that is no longer supported (2008) but I paid $500 for it and I do not want to have to buy a new one when this one works great but to get a new key would be impossible. I have 10 years worth of software that I use every day that I would lose 75% if I am forced to give up this XP drive.
    Does anyone know how I can get the board drivers into XP so I can get this thing going with a 2 drive 2 OS setup?


    Thanks
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  2. #52


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    maybe 8 and XP


    theog I looked at that but the first thing you need to do is boot from the install discs. I have the oem HP discs but they wont work because the processor was replaced and the ser# does not match. As I stated HP was called and they no longer had the install discs for my system (9 or 10 years old) and they said they could not get me a new key. I then tried Microsoft and they were no longer supporting XP keys so I was out of luck.


    macman... I spoke to the HP tech dept before I bought this new system and explained to him exactly what i needed to do and he told me I could do it. Told me to Google it and I would find the detailed instructions. That is how I found this forum but to date I have no instructions and you inform me I cant do it. Just to update it would cost me several thousands of dollars to re buy all the software I will lose. The Quickbooks is just one of dozens of high dollar software packages I would have to replace and that is insane since these packages work flawlessly and I am the legal registered owner of them all. I have not bootlegged or stolen any of these. it is insane that I will have to take a loan out to re-buy all the software that still runs perfectly because of a new OS.

    Can you explain why I cant run the XP drive in the new system? Is it because of the drivers? Or because there is no way to get those drivers into the running XP system? I am not a tech so I am asking only trying to understand. Its nuts that I will have to keep this old HP running and have another computer because I cant find a way to add this drive to the new system.

    Any explanation will be appreciated.
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  3. #53


    Quote Originally Posted by cybor462 View Post
    theog I looked at that but the first thing you need to do is boot from the install discs. I have the oem HP discs but they wont work because the processor was replaced and the ser# does not match. As I stated HP was called and they no longer had the install discs for my system (9 or 10 years old) and they said they could not get me a new key. I then tried Microsoft and they were no longer supporting XP keys so I was out of luck.


    macman... I spoke to the HP tech dept before I bought this new system and explained to him exactly what i needed to do and he told me I could do it. Told me to Google it and I would find the detailed instructions. That is how I found this forum but to date I have no instructions and you inform me I cant do it. Just to update it would cost me several thousands of dollars to re buy all the software I will lose. The Quickbooks is just one of dozens of high dollar software packages I would have to replace and that is insane since these packages work flawlessly and I am the legal registered owner of them all. I have not bootlegged or stolen any of these. it is insane that I will have to take a loan out to re-buy all the software that still runs perfectly because of a new OS.

    Can you explain why I cant run the XP drive in the new system? Is it because of the drivers? Or because there is no way to get those drivers into the running XP system? I am not a tech so I am asking only trying to understand. Its nuts that I will have to keep this old HP running and have another computer because I cant find a way to add this drive to the new system.

    Any explanation will be appreciated.
    Have you tried to boot your XP drive without any other drive connected to the computer? If so what were the results?
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    I think he tried that but if he can get it to run as the only drive then he can get it to run as a second drive. He just won't be able to have a multi-boot option in win 8. I'm sure he doesn't care about that as long as he can run it.

    Edit: on a side note, Cybor, do u have the installation software for your old programs or do u NEED them to run on that drive because they're already installed and u can't re-install?

    Have you tried to boot your XP drive without any other drive connected to the computer? If so what were the results?[/QUOTE]
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  5. #55


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    maybe 8 and XP


    labeeman.. yes I first tried to boot it usb and it started loading and got to the XP splash screen and then rebooted and it went to the Win 8 drive and booted Win 8. I then installed the drive internally and set the boot device to the (XP) drive while leaving the Win 8 disc installed. It did the same as before. I then removed the Win 8 disc (disconnected the signal and power connector ) and set the XP as the only boot drive and it did the same, start loading to the splash screen but this time it went to XP boot menu giving me the options of start Windows Normally, Safe Mode you know the menu. I tried safe mode and results were the same.

    I feel it does not have the correct mainboard drivers and bites it and reboots. What do you think?

    As an update this same drive boots flawlessly in the old HP computer when installed internally but will not boot from the usb on it. It does the same thing it does on the Win 8 system when booting from usb. Not sure if that matters. This drive is a brand new Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm sata drive 500gb. I cloned my old HP drive to this so I would not jeopardize the original disc playing with it trying to get it to work on Win 8
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    I wonder if HP locks the drive to their system somehow?
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  7. #57


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    maybe 8 and XP


    sl2222 I have most of the original discs that I bought on discs. Most will not run under Win 8. Several of the real costly ones like Quickbooks Pro, Sound Forge Studio and Acid studio mixman studio, Retrospect backup, Pinnacle video and others no longer support those versions, a few where sold to other companies and the old versions are not supported, some like Quickbooks no longer support the older stuff and will not offer any reinstall support. They force you to buy the newest version. Some just do not exist any longer and there is no tech at all.
    Then there are the things like I bought as web installed packages like all my plugins for Sound Forge and Pinnacle where I do not have a physical file to reinstall. I do video and have a ton of utilities like video convertors and the like which almost all were web installs and I do not have a file. Most offered to sell me a physical disc but I never thought I would need it as long as I kept things backed up so I did not spend the extra money on them. I had a year to reinstall from the web but most are longer than that when I bought them.
    Then I have apps for my mobile devices that are web installed which include database software that are costly and I need them to link to my devices and they are good for only one install so if I need to change it costs me all over again.

    As one person posted just bite the bullet and re-buy everything, well if he will buy them for me I will be glad to do it but I do mainly free work for non profits so I cant afford to re-buy what has taken me years to own. I use most of them all the time so it would be devastating to lose them. Worst thing is they all work why should I re-buy them?
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  8. #58


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    maybe 8 and XP


    sl2222 remember both systems are HP's the old one and the new one so do you think that would be the case? I feel it is a driver issue. Does anyone know if that might be the case? When I tried booting into XP safe mode when the drive was installed as the only drive in the new computer it started loading the drivers and when it got to a certain driver it said hit enter to load (started with a s) do not remember what is was) when I hit enter is when it rebooted. I know it is driver related. Just not smart enough to know what to do to fix it.
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  9. #59


    Quote Originally Posted by cybor462 View Post
    labeeman.. yes I first tried to boot it usb and it started loading and got to the XP splash screen and then rebooted and it went to the Win 8 drive and booted Win 8. I then installed the drive internally and set the boot device to the (XP) drive while leaving the Win 8 disc installed. It did the same as before. I then removed the Win 8 disc (disconnected the signal and power connector ) and set the XP as the only boot drive and it did the same, start loading to the splash screen but this time it went to XP boot menu giving me the options of start Windows Normally, Safe Mode you know the menu. I tried safe mode and results were the same.

    I feel it does not have the correct mainboard drivers and bites it and reboots. What do you think?

    As an update this same drive boots flawlessly in the old HP computer when installed internally but will not boot from the usb on it. It does the same thing it does on the Win 8 system when booting from usb. Not sure if that matters. This drive is a brand new Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm sata drive 500gb. I cloned my old HP drive to this so I would not jeopardize the original disc playing with it trying to get it to work on Win 8
    If you have a install disk and get it to boot you might be able to do a repair on your XP clone. If you cannot get your install disk to boot you are up a creek without a paddle. You might also check with the OEM for XP drivers.

    the other thing to check very important is how the hard drives are used and set the bios in the new machine to the same settings as the old machine AHCI or not. Try that first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybor462 View Post
    theog I looked at that but the first thing you need to do is boot from the install discs. I have the oem HP discs but they wont work because the processor was replaced and the ser# does not match. As I stated HP was called and they no longer had the install discs for my system (9 or 10 years old) and they said they could not get me a new key. I then tried Microsoft and they were no longer supporting XP keys so I was out of luck.
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