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Installing XP AFTER Win 8?

  1. #41


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cybor462 View Post
    Heah sl2222 not sure that is my issue. My XP runs fine on the Old HP box. I was wondering if the drivers are my issue. Like I mentioned I was able to get it starting to load but after 20 seconds after the XP splash screen comes up it stops and reboots to Win 8
    WIn XP will run fine on the old HP so there is nothing wrong with the install. I just was not sure if I would have to reinstall it for some reason. If not I am good. DO you have any suggestions?
    The HP OEM manufacturer Win XP licence is NOT TRANSFERABLE.
    Quote Originally Posted by cybor462 View Post
    theog do you think that is my issue? I am trying not to lose the thousands of dollars of software I have on my XP drive. If I have to reinstall all my software is toast. Most will not run under WIn 8 this is the reason I am trying to add the drive intact. Some of it is not supported anymore so if I have an issue its gone. My Office Pro 2007 alone will cost me big bucks if I lose this drive let alone all my audio studios and vegas video. Mostly all of it will not run in Win 8 so I am trying to save this mess.
    I never thought about the license issue. Can anyone verify that this will not work because of a license issue. I thought MS stop all software support for XP (not updates) but key support. I tried to buy a key last year and they said no longer supported.
    What a mess. I am one of those people that buys software and I guess I will be one of those who will lose a ton of money now too.
    Does anyone know if the license thing is why it will not run in the new desktop? Makes me more willing to find bootleg stuff. At least that way I would not lose like I am now.
    The HP OEM licence is only for PC that it came with.

    You can do a Repair Install use a New Retail/OEM licence.
    Repair Windows XP by Performing a Repair Install (Part 1 of 2)

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  2. #42


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by sl2222 View Post
    I already have that but if you want to run an old game forget the virtual thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Why not download Virtual Box (free) and create a VM of XP that way you won't have all the headaches of making a dual boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Win XP will not dual boot with Windows 8 x64 UEFI mode.
    Quote Originally Posted by sl2222 View Post
    no, my xp was installed on a separate drive.
    right now if I disconnect the win 8 drive xp boots fine.
    OR..I can leave all drives connected and boot the xp drive thru the bios. (which is what i'm doing now)
    easybcd will not get the xp menu item into the win 8 boot mgr. tried all different ways.

    Have u tried having the xp drive installed as the ONLY drive and then see what happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by cybor462 View Post
    sl2222 you said you were able to get your XP running in 8? Did you reinstall on drive under 8? I did get to boot from usb and that did not work either. Should I use easybcd? So far I have just tried to boot from my XP drive.
    I am lost.
    Win XP will not dual boot with Windows 8 x64 UEFI mode.
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  3. #43


    I'm pretty sure people have been successful if you install win 8 while xp is in the existing system. u can get xp to boot from the 'earlier version of windows' after modifying the boot menu.

    Win XP will not dual boot with Windows 8 x64 UEFI mode.[/QUOTE]
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  4. #44


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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64


    I've never understood why people make such a song and dance about multi boot. I have built several over the years using the same system - 1 OS per drive.

    Method - connect 1st drive only, and install 1st OS. Disconnect 1st drive, connect 2nd drive only + install 2nd OS. Repeat as required. When each OS is OK, connect all drives and set BIOS to boot from drive with most used OS. When you need an alternative OS select boot menu at start up (F11 for me) and pick the drive with the OS you need.

    This method works with XP, Windows 7 + 8, Ubuntu, or any combination. If you change your mind in the future, you can add or remove a drive/OS, reformat or whatever. Each drive/OS has its own boot info.

    Simple - unless you were stupid enough to buy a big brand Windows 8 pc with a locked BIOS.
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  5. #45


    that is exactly how my system is running now. I was bound and determined to get xp on the win 8 boot menu but alas, i couldn't do it and I tried everything.
    The way it works now is just as good except I have to be aware at boot time (no waiting at a menu) to press 'del' to get to the bios.
    It was more of a principle to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by mancman View Post
    I've never understood why people make such a song and dance about multi boot. I have built several over the years using the same system - 1 OS per drive.

    Method - connect 1st drive only, and install 1st OS. Disconnect 1st drive, connect 2nd drive only + install 2nd OS. Repeat as required. When each OS is OK, connect all drives and set BIOS to boot from drive with most used OS. When you need an alternative OS select boot menu at start up (F11 for me) and pick the drive with the OS you need.

    This method works with XP, Windows 7 + 8, Ubuntu, or any combination. If you change your mind in the future, you can add or remove a drive/OS, reformat or whatever. Each drive/OS has its own boot info.

    Simple - unless you were stupid enough to buy a big brand Windows 8 pc with a locked BIOS.
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  6. #46


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    maybe 8 and XP


    mancman That is exactly what I am trying to do. I bought a new HP with 8 installed. I have an XP drive from my old HP running great with all the software I am trying to keep. I can get at the bios but the drive will start loading and when it gets to the XP splash screen it reboots. I feel its because I do not have the drivers for the new board. I am not a techie so I do not know how to get the new drivers into my XP. The only way I ever did that was when the system was new and it sought out drivers for printers and the like but I think the system drivers go on at install am I correct?
    My issue is I cant reinstall the XP because #1 I will lose all my web installed software (have a ton of it) from years ago when it installed from the web and you did not get the files. My XP license went invalid when I had my processor fry on the old system and I installed a new one. I had the system on Hard Drive so it did not matter until I tried to lay down a fresh install after virus issues and I found out the serial # on the new chip was different. HP no longer had the restore discs (this system is 10 years old) so they told me to call Microsoft, buy they were no longer supporting the keys for XP so I have to keep this drive intact.
    I have software on this drive that is no longer supported like all my audio studios Acid and Sound forge, Quickbooks Pro that is no longer supported (2008) but I paid $500 for it and I do not want to have to buy a new one when this one works great but to get a new key would be impossible. I have 10 years worth of software that I use every day that I would lose 75% if I am forced to give up this XP drive.
    Does anyone know how I can get the board drivers into XP so I can get this thing going with a 2 drive 2 OS setup?


    Thanks
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  7. #47


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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64


    Actually I have a 2nd multi boot method that I recently deployed to put Windows 3.11, Windows 98, Windows 2000 and XP all on one drive (just to see if I could).

    I used the free bootable cd from Partition Wizard to create, make active and hide each partition in turn (I had to hide installed OS's because early Windows versions used to see the next OS as an upgrade). After install I used the very old XOSL boot loader from Sourceforge to make a menu. Nowadays I use VMware to play with old OS's.

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  8. #48


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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64


    cybor - if you're trying to put an old xp drive into a new, different machine I don't think its possible. I've read on seven forums of people doing it with Windows 7 with some success. You can't really swap system disks around, but you can hook them up to copy any data worth retrieving.

    You may have to cut your losses and upgrade to newer software. If you spent 500 bucks and had good use for a few years, you've had your money's worth.
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  9. #49


    Thanks for the info mancman. xosl won't boot anything later than xp right?
    I see I have to do more studying.
    and i know there must be a way to get an xp os onto a win 8 boot menu at any time.
    someday i may figure it out or more likely run into a solution provided by a much more knowledgeable guy than me. (which isn't hard to do)
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  10. #50


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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64


    sl2222 - I have only used XOSL up to XP, so can't advise on more recent OS.

    Although I use the '1 OS per drive' method, I have tried the official Microsoft way of install earliest OS first, then install progressively later OS's which gives you a boot menu automatically, and does work. Its just that my method is more flexible and avoids the 'eggs in one basket' problem.

    I'm sure I've read on seven forums about people installing multiboot OS in the wrong order, but I can't say if it applies to Windows 8.
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