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Restart to Win 8 Fails with Dual Boot

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    Restart to Win 8 Fails with Dual Boot


    Lots of great info on this thread! I finally got Windows 8 installed on my Dell M4600 dual boot with the Win 7 install. This is my business laptop so I needed to maintain full functions to Win 7 (I will completely migrate to 8 in the future) and ensure I could continue to work with it. I have two SSDs: Drive 0 is a 2.5" 256 GB used for data as d:. Drive 1 (this is how the bios designates them) was originally a 128GB MSATA SSD. I cloned this to a newer 240GB SSD to provide more room for the two OSs (and provide a good fail safe). With the clone I cleared the Dell recovery partitions and added the partition for Win 8. Currently I have some wasted space at the front but I will sort that out in the future. It has taken a week to get Win 8 up and running properly (tracking down drivers, getting the fingerprint scanner to work etc) but it seems to be stable and I have started to use it. Now to the problems:

    1. The boot screen is the old Win 7 type (not really a problem by itself). I have used EasyBCD to adjust the default to Win 8. If I do a "restart" from 8 and then select 7 no problem. On the other hand, any restart to 8 brings up the MS flag and twirling thing and stops. I need to power down and start back up. No problem if I shutdown and then restart. I've been working on figuring out how the whole process works and I suspect the problem has to do with the switching drive letters depending on which OS is started and/or the Resume parameters in the BCD. Additionally, during all the hassle with installing Win 8 the boot loader is on the Win 7 partition - no idea why. This is not a big issue just irritating but I would like to figure out how to fix it. I'm hesitant to start using BCDedit on this laptop as I would prefer not to mess anything up. I also will not go through the hassle of re-installing Win 8 again - 3 or 4 times was enough.

    2. At some point I will delete the Win 7 partition and expand the space for the Win 8 (I'll need to use some third party tools to do this). My concern is that the boot loader is on the Win 7 partition so I would appreciate some advice on how to move it to the Win 8 partition if possible.

    I've attached two screen shots for the disk management status (win 7 an 8) and attachedoutput form BCDedit /enum all for both OSs.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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    Last edited by Brink; 15 Feb 2013 at 11:30. Reason: Moved to new thread to get better support

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    Welcome. Could you just give an executive summary of what your problem is?
    Last edited by znod; 15 Feb 2013 at 13:08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Welcome. Coud you just give an executive summary of what your problem is?
    Sure:
    1. A restart (not a shutdown-start) from either Win 7 or Win 8 to Win 8 fails. Full shutdown and start works.
    2. Future: How do you move the boot loader from one partition to another?
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    Quote Originally Posted by razmichael View Post
    1. A restart (not a shutdown-start) from either Win 7 or Win 8 to Win 8 fails. Full shutdown and start works.
    ?
    Physically disconnect the D: HD Drive.
    Make the Windows 7/8 SSD, disk0 & first HD boot in BIOS.Also connected to the first Sata port on the MOBO.
    Than do a Auto Repair first,

    How to do a Auto Repair:
    Automatic Repair - Run in Windows 8
    Note: You may need to do startup repair 3 to 4 times.
    Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times - Windows 7 Support Forums



    When Windows is booting OK, replace D: HD Drive back in, as Disk 1 & make sure you mark the HD Drive INACTIVE:
    Partition - Mark as Inactive - Windows 7 Support Forums
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    Won't work but thanks. The SSD with the OSs is a MSATA card. The SSD (d is in the main 2.5 slot on the laptop. When this is put back the bios will always see it as drive 0. Might seem to make more sense to have installed the other way around but with the original configuration (year or so ago) the MSATA card was small and expensive compared to the 2.5 (and slower). In the future I could look at swapping the configuration around but the problem does not seem to be related to the issue of which drive is which. The system boots fine from Drive 1 labelled as c:. The current problem seems to be related to the naming of the two OS partitions jumping around and not being updated on a software restart. I'm really hoping that this is something that can be fixed with BCDEdit. If not I will live with it until I dump windows 7 completely.
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    Windows boots from the first ACTIVE partition, in your case is D:.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Welcome. Coud you just give an executive summary of what your problem is?
    Thanks. You provided info that could have been useful upfront. Not saying you should not have provided it, but the best way to get quicker help probably is to make it very clear upfront, and easy for those who might help to see, what your main issue is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Welcome. Coud you just give an executive summary of what your problem is?
    Thanks. You provided info that could have been useful upfront. Not saying you should not have provided it, but the best way to get quicker help probably is to make it very clear upfront, and easy for those who might help to see, what your main issue is.
    All in post one.
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    I know it all is in post 1. Just trying to help those who might want to help get started quickly.
    Last edited by znod; 15 Feb 2013 at 14:56.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Windows boots from the first ACTIVE partition, in your case is D:.
    Not sure on the implications of this. The BIOS boot configuration excludes this D: drive (the main drive 0) and boots from the MSATA drive only. The BCDedit /enum files attached to my first post show the bootmgr location as either c: drive (partition on the MSATA) or G: drive. The boot options are for C: F: or G: depending on which OS you are in. I'm confused and ready to just let it ride.
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