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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    If you want to install a second Operating system on your system you have several options : ....

    None of those problems arise when you install in virtual.
    I am getting bored with what I am doing. Thinking of going back to Win7 on my old lappy and doing something I haven't done before on a Windows machine. In this regard, if I choose to use VMware Player to run Win8 virtually on the old lappy after returning it Win7, then can I use a Win8 disk image made via Windows 7 File Recovery (on Win8) to set things up or, alternatively, use, say, a disk image made via Acronis or Paragon to set things up?

    The old lappy only has 2 GB of RAM, but I never would be running two applicatons/tasks of significance from both systems at once. Do you thing 2 GB would be a problem?

    Thanks for any help.
    It is a lot easier. In the system where you have VMware right now, there should be a VMware folder called 'Virtual Machines' - probably in Documents. Move a copy of this folder to your new machine (probably also to Documents or any other place). Then install VMware on your new machine and open it.

    Then follow the steps in this tutorial under 'Starting your virtual System'. No images required. And whenever you want to backup your VMware virtual system, just copy that 'Virtual Machines' folder to another partition. It will be at the state of when you copied it.

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    Thank you very much whs. I will look carefully at the tutorial. Currently, I am not running VMware; don't have VMware folder called "'Virtual Machines.'" No "new machine." Just doing some preliminary thinking. As indicated, I will look carefully at the tutorial, but, for now, can you, or someone else, give a yes or no (or maybe a shade of grey) on "can I use a Windows 8 disk image made via Windows 7 File Recovery (on Windows 8) to set things up [on VMware Player] or, alternatively, use, say, a disk image made via Acronis or Paragon to set things up [on VMware Player]?"
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    No, that will not work. For VMware setup you need an iso. What you might be able to do is to make a dummy VMware installation with an iso and replace that by an image. That needs more thought though.
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    Here is what might work.

    0. make a Macrium image of the partition you want to transport. You can use the WinPE CD => the .iso is at this Skydrive site. Download and burn.

    1. You define a virtual partition in VMware at least the size of the partition from where the image comes.

    2. Install any Windows system (as a dummy) in there.

    3. Use the WinPE Macrium disc to replace the dummy Windows system with the image.

    Matter of trying. Not 100% certain how that will work out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    No, that will not work. For VMware setup you need an iso. What you might be able to do is to make a dummy VMware installation with an iso and replace that by an image. That needs more thought though.
    Thanks again. I have lots of ISO's. What you say is consistent with my thinking/hoping. Maybe someone else will know for sure. But, heck I'd try it, whatever, if I go that direction.
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    The problem will be in step #3 because Macrium recovery will look for a mounted volume. I have never mounted a .vmdk (the VMware virtual disk).
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Here is what might work.

    0. make a Macrium image of the partition you want to transport. You can use the WinPE CD => the .iso is at this Skydrive site. Download and burn.

    1. You define a virtual partition in VMware at least the size of the partition from where the image comes.

    2. Install any Windows system (as a dummy) in there.

    3. Use the WinPE Macrium disc to replace the dummy Windows system with the image.

    Matter of trying. Not 100% certain how that will work out.
    Sounds good. Thank you once again. I'll have to investigate "WinPE CD => the .iso is at this Skydrive site" to know exactly what you are talking about. If I get around to what I am thinking about, then I'll get back to you if successful (or, actually, if unsuccessful)--regardless of how I do it (or don't do it). You've been a great help.
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    Not sure whether I have been a great help yet. Mounting the .vmdk in step #3 is not a trivial task. Btw: The WinPE .iso I had uploaded to Skydrive. It works exactly the same as the installed Macrium program. It is just more convenient because you need not install Macrium.
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    Have a look at this. Maybe that helps: Mounting VMDK disks directly to your windows box - how to
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    Thanks much. I think I will end up not trying to use a Windows 8 disk image made via Windows 7 File Recovery (on Windows 8) to set things up [on VMware Player] or to use, say, a disk image made via Acronis or Paragon to set things up [on VMware Player]. Doing so sounds like too much of a task. I'll just set up VMware Player the standard way--whatever that is--assuming I get around to taking that approach. I also am thinking of some other possible boredom reducers. Thanks again.
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