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  1. #1


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    download Windows * without Upgrade Assistant


    I need to purchase and download Windows 8 but with a differenet computer than the one that it will be installed. I do NOT want to run Upgrade Assistant. Is there a link to purchase an download with running this extra program?

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    Windows XP, Vista, 7


    I just called Microsoft and was told that I had to run the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant program on each computer and download it to that specific computer when Windows 8 upgrade is purchased. That is what the lady at Microsoft said.

    This is just stupid. Microsoft going out of their way to take somehting very simple and make it complicated and burdensome. Will they ever learn?
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  3. #3


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    Hello 1Engineer,

    I'm not sure what you have against using the "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant". You can only purchase and download the ISO without installing if you like.

    It will not deactivate the key on the computer you run it on. You only need to make sure that the PC you run it on is the same 32-bit or 64-bit as the PC you plan on installing it on for the ISO download to be the same 32-bit or 64-bit.

    When you get to step 17 in "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant" in the tutorial below, you could do step 19 to "Install by creating media" to get the ISO without installing. Afterwards, just delete the hidden "%C:\Users\(user-name)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WebSetup" and "C:\ESD" folders to free up your HDD space from the installation files.


    Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant - Download and Run


    If you really do not want to use the "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant", then you will need to go to any online or brick & mortar retailer to purchase Windows 8. It will verify that you have a qualifying OS before letting you install it as well as "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant" does.


    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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  4. #4


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Hello 1Engineer,

    I'm not sure what you have against using the "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant". You can only purchase and download the ISO without installing if you like.

    It will not deactivate the key on the computer you run it on. You only need to make sure that the PC you run it on is the same 32-bit or 64-bit as the PC you plan on installing it on for the ISO download to be the same 32-bit or 64-bit.
    As an engineer, function is everything. Running the Upgrade Assistant on computer A is a useless waste of time if the software is going to be installed on computer B. Microsoft had a good opportunity to make this very simple and they blew it. There are also many reports of people having problems when they attempt to buy more than one RTU for Windows 8 using the Upgrade Assistant on a single computer. I have not tried this today but plan to before the deadline.
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  5. #5


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    Are you able to run it on computer B?

    The main point is that you have a qualifying OS key that you will no longer be using while the Windows 8 is installed and activated. If not, then you need to purchase a "System Builder" copy of Windows 8 instead of an upgrade copy to meet the EULA.

    If you do, then you should not have an issue with purchasing and downloading on computer A to install on computer B since you are allowed to do so by the EULA so long as the above is true.

    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...tml#post129442

    What about upgrading the software?
    The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may not continue to use it or transfer it in any way. This agreement governs your rights to use the upgrade software and replaces the agreement for the software from which you upgraded. After you complete your upgrade, additional software will be required to playback or record certain types of media, including DVDs.

    Can I transfer the software to another computer or user?
    You may transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software (together with the license) to a computer owned by someone else if a) you are the first licensed user of the software and b) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. To make that transfer, you must transfer the original media, the certificate of authenticity, the product key and the proof of purchase directly to that other person, without retaining any copies of the software. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Anytime you transfer the software to a new computer, you must remove the software from the prior computer. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between computers. You may transfer Get Genuine Windows software, Pro Pack or Media Center Pack software only together with the licensed computer.
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    Thanks Brink, I am sure your response will help some people though it does not apply to my question. I understand I can burn the ISO and install on another computer. My point is that the program that must be run before the purchase is a waste of time if the install is on another computer becasue it is not truly verifying anything of value.

    The transfer you reference in the EULA applies to activated installs. Downloading on one computer and installing on another is not covered in the EULA because the download computer is not considered an End User because it had no install.

    In order to be consistent, Microsoft shoudl mail COA to the buyers so they can place the stickers on the computers. Without these COA, there will be problems later.


    PS
    Called Microsoft again this morning and was told that the downloaded ISO is unique to the computer on which it was downloaded and will fail activation if used on another computer instead of the one that it was downloaded on. The lady said that many people have tried this and it did not work so they sell them the $70 disks instead. She said that they will give a credit of the $40 download toward the purchase of the $70 disk and instruction manual.


    Wow, Microsoft really went out of their way to make this not simple.
    Last edited by 1Engineer; 29 Jan 2013 at 09:55. Reason: more info
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  7. #7


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by 1Engineer
    The transfer you reference in the EULA applies to activated installs. Downloading on one computer and installing on another is not covered in the EULA because the download computer is not considered an End User because it had no install.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brink
    then you need to purchase a "System Builder" copy of Windows 8 instead of an upgrade copy to meet the EULA.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Engineer
    In order to be consistent, Microsoft shoudl mail COA to the buyers so they can place the stickers on the computers. Without these COA, there will be problems later.
    The email is the COA.
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    Yep, Microsoft made it to where you can't get or use an "upgrade" if you don't have a qualifying OS for the upgrade as it should be. You can blame this on the people that abused this when Microsoft made is simple from previous Windows.

    As I and Ray posted above, you will need to purchase a "System Builder" copy instead if you don't have a qualify OS for the upgrade copy.


    The COA stickers were done away with due to pirates copying the product keys from display models in retail stores. As Ray posted above, your purchase confirmation email is your COA now.
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  9. #9


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    Posts : 173
    Windows 8, Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by 1Engineer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Hello 1Engineer,

    I'm not sure what you have against using the "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant". You can only purchase and download the ISO without installing if you like.

    It will not deactivate the key on the computer you run it on. You only need to make sure that the PC you run it on is the same 32-bit or 64-bit as the PC you plan on installing it on for the ISO download to be the same 32-bit or 64-bit.
    As an engineer, function is everything. Running the Upgrade Assistant on computer A is a useless waste of time if the software is going to be installed on computer B. Microsoft had a good opportunity to make this very simple and they blew it. There are also many reports of people having problems when they attempt to buy more than one RTU for Windows 8 using the Upgrade Assistant on a single computer. I have not tried this today but plan to before the deadline.
    As a Microsoft Engineer, I can tell you that we did this on purpose, for two reasons:

    1. There are a lot of folks who just want to click a few buttons and have it do the work so when they come back after a period of time, it is done.
    2. The level of abuse is higher than we'd like, much higher.

    In order to find a balance between the two, this is what we came up with.

    Thanks,
    Johnathan Lyman
    A Guy That Works For MS

    (what I say is of my own volition and does not reflect anything my employer thinks, says or does).
    Last edited by JLyman; 29 Jan 2013 at 14:28.
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    Well I downloaded my 32bit install cd on my buddy's computer becouse I needed 32bit disk but had 64 bit windows, after that I installed windows 8 to my mothers computer and my brothers computer using that same disk.
    So not so unigue disk as you said, I did run that upgrade tool on every computer and buy keys for every computer.
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