Windows 8 and 8.1 Forums


UEFI and Windows 8 Pro DVD

  1. #11


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Thanks much. Back to only semi-confusion. In reconciling what all say, I am lead to conclude that use of the word "need" in the quote is incorrect. Your approach is consistent with the snip theog posted.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #12


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    1) Some Upgrade downloads do not have UEFI support.

    How to make the ISO the easy way.
    by one of your top app makers SIW2.

    Can't find the option to burn an ISO disk
    Also The MS USB Tool does not work correctly.

    2) When using the Windows 8 Pro to reinstall on a PC Preinstalled with Windows 8 core, Windows 8 core will be installed NOT PRO.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #13


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    1) Some Upgrade downloads do not have UEFI support.

    How to make the ISO the easy way.
    by one of your top app makers SIW2.

    Can't find the option to burn an ISO disk
    Also The MS USB Tool does not work correctly.

    2) When using the Windows 8 Pro to reinstall on a PC Preinstalled with Windows 8 core, Windows 8 core will be installed NOT PRO.
    Thanks theog. Let's see if I can follow you. I am going to give it a go, but I will have to be very creative and will have to put a great many words in your mouth. I have no reason whatsoever to think that my words will be correct.

    I understand what you are saying in 1), but I am not sure why you said it. Are you saying it because upgrade downloads to non-UEFI computers don't have UEFI support?

    I went to Can't find the option to burn an ISO disk. Here, I find the app to "Create Win8 iso with BIOS/EFI support from ESD files" (ESD-TO-ISO.zip). Will that app create an ISO with UEFI support regardless of the machine the ESD files were created on? Thus, the ISO could be used to make an install DVD or install flash drive that would have UEFI support.

    You say "The MS USB Tool does not work correctly." I don't know anything about a MS USB tool. Are you saying that an install flash drive created as indicated above would work properly, while the MS USB tool would not work properly?

    You say "2) When using the Windows 8 Pro to reinstall on a PC Preinstalled with Windows 8 core, Windows 8 core will be installed NOT PRO." That's interesting, but I am not sure how it connects to the earlier things you say.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #14


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    1) Part of the UEFI support is missing in some downloads.

    2) MS USB Tool will format to NTFS, uEFI USB Pendrive need to be format to FAT32.

    3) When reinstalling a Preinstalled Windows 8 core with a PRO disc, the key code in the BIOS will be seen, therefore will install the version of that key.

    4) NEED, is this OK now.

    1. Do step 2 or 3 below depending on what installation Media you are using.

    2. If using a Retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD

    A) Insert the DVD, restart the computer, and go to step 4 below.

    3. If using a 64-bit Windows 8 Installation USB Flash Drive with UEFI

    A) If you have not already, you will need to create a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI from either a Windows 8 installation ISO or DVD.

    B) Connect the USB, restart the computer, and go to step 4 below.

    4. Press whatever key (ex: F11) it shows to boot to your motherboard's boot menu, and select to boot from the DVD or UEFI USB. (see screenshot below)
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #15


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    1) Part of the UEFI support is missing in some downloads.

    2) MS USB Tool will format to NTFS, uEFI USB Pendrive need to be format to FAT32.

    3) When reinstalling a Preinstalled Windows 8 core with a PRO disc, the key code in the BIOS will be seen, therefore will install the version of that key.

    4) NEED, is this OK now.

    1. Do step 2 or 3 below depending on what installation Media you are using.

    2. If using a Retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD

    A) Insert the DVD, restart the computer, and go to step 4 below.

    3. If using a 64-bit Windows 8 Installation USB Flash Drive with UEFI

    A) If you have not already, you will need to create a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI from either a Windows 8 installation ISO or DVD.

    B) Connect the USB, restart the computer, and go to step 4 below.

    4. Press whatever key (ex: F11) it shows to boot to your motherboard's boot menu, and select to boot from the DVD or UEFI USB. (see screenshot below)
    Getting ready to watch Downton Abbey. I will get back to you on 1) through 3) tomorrow. What you have done on "need" is making almost perfect sense to me--reconciles pretty much all the earlier comments made. But, I am having trouble with:

    "3. If using a 64-bit Windows 8 Installation USB Flash Drive with UEFI

    A) If you have not already, you will need to create a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI from either a Windows 8 installation ISO or DVD."

    Given that "part of the UEFI support is missing in some downloads," how would I know I have an "installation ISO or DVD" that is appropriate for use in creating "a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI? I would know if I had a "Retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD," but that's covered in 2). So, otherwise, how would I know that I have an "installation ISO or DVD" that is "proper" for creating "a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI?
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #16


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Given that "part of the UEFI support is missing in some downloads," how would I know I have an "installation ISO or DVD" that is appropriate for use in creating "a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI? I would know if I had a "Retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD," but that's covered in 2). So, otherwise, how would I know that I have an "installation ISO or DVD" that is "proper" for creating "a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI?
    When you try to install, will not install in UEFI mode.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #17


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Given that "part of the UEFI support is missing in some downloads," how would I know I have an "installation ISO or DVD" that is appropriate for use in creating "a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI? I would know if I had a "Retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD," but that's covered in 2). So, otherwise, how would I know that I have an "installation ISO or DVD" that is "proper" for creating "a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI?
    When you try to install, will not install in UEFI mode.
    I can see that; figured that's the answer. If so, in regard to "3. A)," shouldn't the tutorial indicate what you should do if your don't have a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD and 3 A) doesn't work. Is there an alternative better than buying a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD at that point? In this regard, I assume that if you had a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD, then you probably would not be interested in creating the bootable USB flash drive for UEFI.

    And, on a possibly related matter, how does the 64-bit DVD (part of the 2 DVD set) that can be ordered during the ISO downloads fit into the picture? Is the 64-bit DVD the same as a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD?
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #18


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    I can see that; figured that's the answer. If so, in regard to "3. A)," shouldn't the tutorial indicate what you should do if your don't have a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD and 3 A) doesn't work. Is there an alternative better than buying a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD at that point? In this regard, I assume that if you had a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD, then you probably would not be interested in creating the bootable USB flash drive for UEFI.
    UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows
    Step 7.

    Click image for larger version

    And, on a possibly related matter, how does the 64-bit DVD (part of the 2 DVD set) that can be ordered during the ISO downloads fit into the picture? Is the 64-bit DVD the same as a retail 64-bit Windows 8 Installation DVD.
    Yes, the same, one is x32 & one is x64.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #19


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Right. Forgot that's in there--the other tutorial. Then, maybe that possibility could be brought in earlier--in the context of

    1.

    2.

    A)

    3.

    A) If you have not already, you will need to create a Windows 8 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI from either a Windows 8 installation ISO or DVD. If this step does not work for you, then ....

    B)

    4.

    And, I come back to an issue I raised earlier.

    "I went to Can't find the option to burn an ISO disk. Here, I find the app to "Create Windows 8 iso with BIOS/EFI support from ESD files" (ESD-TO-ISO.zip). Will that app create an ISO with [full] UEFI support regardless of the machine the ESD files were created on? Thus, the ISO could be used to make an install DVD or install flash drive that would have [full] UEFI support."

    Elaborating, or maybe clarifying, if
    "part of the UEFI support is missing in some downloads," then wouldn't the same support be missing from related ESD files (or at least some ESD files)? If so, then the "solution" still has a loose end.

    In this regard, I still don't understand where downloads that are lacking UEFI support come from. Are they tied to machines not having UEFI or what? How would you know, in principle, whether your downloaded ISO (or maybe the related ESD files) has (have) full UEFI support a priori, etc? Or can you know in advance?

    Also, I presume that the ISO's obtained via option 1 here, Windows 8 Upgrade ISO - Download or Create, are not "foolproof" in regard to UEFI support?

    Thanks on: "
    Yes, the same, one is x32 & one is x64." Just being picky, but I assume the answer is the same whether the ISO download was on a 64-bit installed machine or a 32-bit installed machine.
    Last edited by znod; 27 Jan 2013 at 23:34.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #20


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    There are many downloads, for start there are
    One for each Language,
    One for each download server.

    The app adds the missing part.


    If you order the disc's, you will be sent x32 & x64 DVD's, if ordered on a x32 or x64 PC.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
UEFI and Windows 8 Pro DVD
Related Threads
I need to change some setting in my UEFI/BIOS but it is stuck in ready only mode. All options are blanked out except for "exit". How can I get it to let me edit the settings again?
Hello to the forum. Thanks for the welcome. And thanks for pointing me in this subforum. I have a notebook toshiba satellite L850-1HU with UEFI Default is win 8 os, recently upgraded to 8.1. Now I need to win 7. I have a professional license N sp1 x64 and then supports UEFI
Hello, i have HP Pavilion g6 1360su with Insyde H2O F.6A. I have downloaded and installed the HP UEFI Support Environment from here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-119351-1&cc=bg&dlc=bg&lc=en...=. Is my PC compatible with Windows 8 UEFI? :think:
Dear Friends, Long time reader of this forum but a first time poster, so please forgive me if this question has already been asked and answered. Laptop: ASUS UX31A-DB71, latest BIOS: 218 Originally my laptop came with Windows 7 and when i looked at disk management my disks were formatted...
Hi everyone Some people might like to test the possibilities of UEFI systems even though their current machines aren't equipped with it. It IS possible to do this in a Virtual machine even if the HOST system is a non UEFI machine. Edit Manually the VM configuration for the VM you want to...
uefi installation of windows 8 in Installation & Setup
ok... i upgraded from win7 to win8... and now i got to know that win8 would boot even more faster if it has uefi configuration,but to my bad it wasn't enabled in my intel dh55pj motherboard bios... now how do i install windows 8 again with uefi config. ?? i really have no idea about the...
windows 8 uefi 2.3.1 in Installation & Setup
hello i has a laptop toshiba nb 500 13c and i has a win7 and i want to upgrade to windows 8 but when i open the upgrade assiest this is say that i dont has a uefi 2.3.1 for secure boot thats of hardware this problem so how i do that i wiil has a uefi 2.3.1 please help this is the...
Eight Forums Android App Eight Forums IOS App Follow us on Facebook