Benefit of the retail package of Windows 8 Pro

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I had $30.00 in certificates to spend at Best Buy so I went ahead and bought a retail copy of Windows 8 Pro.
Taking the $30.00 off it cost me $39.00.

The key was printed on a piece of cardboard with a sticker than can be pealed off and placed on the PC.

But, they provided 2 separate DVD's, one has 64 bit version and the other has a 32 bit version of Windows 8 Pro.

Is there a way to force Windows to install 32 bit on a 64 bit machine with the download versions of Windows 8
Pro? I did not see any options for it on the install menus.
 

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I had $30.00 in certificates to spend at Best Buy so I went ahead and bought a retail copy of Windows 8 Pro.
Taking the $30.00 off it cost me $39.00.

The key was printed on a piece of cardboard with a sticker than can be pealed off and placed on the PC.

But, they provided 2 separate DVD's, one has 64 bit version and the other has a 32 bit version of Windows 8 Pro.

Is there a way to force Windows to install 32 bit on a 64 bit machine with the download versions of Windows 8
Pro? I did not see any options for it on the install menus.
I don't understand perhaps. But, you apparently don't want to use your DVD's at this time. Instead, you want to do an online upgrade to 32-bit Win8 Pro. Right?

In any case, 32-bit will be installed only if an upgradeable 32-bit system is installed when doing the upgrade. If you have a full install DVD for XP SP3, Vista, or Win7 (and there are other possibilities), then you could install whichever you have, presumably in an EULA consistent way, and then upgrade to Win8 cleanly, or otherwise, via the online route. Check here, under Information and Note, to see the relationship between any upgradeable OS you may have to install and what happens when you upgrade that OS.
 

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To upgrade from x32 to x64, you need to do a clean install.
To downgrade from x64 to x32, you need to do a clean install.
 

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No, I was just curious if you could force a 32 bit install (clean install) on a 64 bit capable system with the download ISO.

With the retail DVD's, you could do a clean install on a 64 bit system with the 32 bit version of Windows 8 by simply using the 32-bit DVD.

There are indeed times a technician might want to put a 32 bit version on a 64 bit capable system, such as drivers working in 32 bit but not working in 64 and perhaps even apps that have the same issue.
 

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If you do the download - it only downloads the files which match the bit version you are booted into. You can't choose.

Download version has install.esd in the sources folder.

I don't know any way of servicing that.

Retail packaged version might have install.wim instead. That is much better.
 

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I had $30.00 in certificates to spend at Best Buy so I went ahead and bought a retail copy of Windows 8 Pro.
Taking the $30.00 off it cost me $39.00.

The key was printed on a piece of cardboard with a sticker than can be pealed off and placed on the PC.

But, they provided 2 separate DVD's, one has 64 bit version and the other has a 32 bit version of Windows 8 Pro.

Is there a way to force Windows to install 32 bit on a 64 bit machine with the download versions of Windows 8
Pro? I did not see any options for it on the install menus.

I've tested this method. When you upgrade from Windows 7 32bit architecture, you will FORCE a Windows 8 32bit architecture upgrade even on 64-bit based hardware.
 

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If you do the download - it only downloads the files which match the bit version you are booted into. You can't choose.

Download version has install.esd in the sources folder.

I don't know any way of servicing that.

Retail packaged version might have install.wim instead. That is much better.

Hmm, esd might be the type of file used by Upgrade Assistant, not more than another file extension of wim.
 

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No, I was just curious if you could force a 32 bit install (clean install) on a 64 bit capable system with the download ISO.
This is the issue I addressed. So, please see my post. Using the downloaded ISO, you can't change "bitness" even with a clean install. The software checks to see that an upgradeable OS with the proper "bitness" is installed even when doing a clean install.
 

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Sadly it isn't just a different extension. It is a compressed file.

I don't think anyone has yet worked out what to with it.

If you do the download - it only downloads the files which match the bit version you are booted into. You can't choose.

Download version has install.esd in the sources folder.

I don't know any way of servicing that.

Retail packaged version might have install.wim instead. That is much better.

Hmm, esd might be the type of file used by Upgrade Assistant, not more than another file extension of wim.
 

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I upgraded three PCs to Windows 8 Pro. Two were 64-bit and one was 32-bit. I used the 64-bit ISO from one of the 64-bit systems to do a clean install on the 32-bit system, so all three are 64-bit now. The product keys are the same for both.
 

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I used the 64-bit ISO from one of the 64-bit systems to do a clean install on the 32-bit system ....
Did you upgrade from here to get the ISO? If yes, then I have been interpreting what MS says in the following quote as being accurate (which sometimes just isn't the case). MS says "if your PC has a 64-bit capable processor (CPU) but is currently running a 32-bit version of Windows, you can install a 64-bit version of Windows 8 Pro, but you'll need to buy it as a DVD and perform a custom installation." Apparently, the MS writer doesn't understand, or doesn't want us to know, that we can do the same thing after using the ISO to create an install medium.

What you apparently did is implicit in the MS quote below about upgrading using a store purchased retail 64-bit DVD. This quote only says that Windows must be running (which does not preclude you from having 32 bit running) when installing 64 bit.

"Or if you prefer (and if it is available in your region), you can buy the upgrade as a DVD from a participating retail store [i.e., actually both 64 bit and 32 bit are included]. Note that if you're upgrading from a DVD, you must have Windows running on your PC when you begin the upgrade. If you'd like to reformat your hard drive, you can do so as long as you start your PC from media and then format your hard drive from within the setup experience for installing Windows, and not prior to it."
 
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To upgrade from x32 to x64, you need to do a clean install.
To downgrade from x64 to x32, you need to do a clean install.
I think that what's in the above post is what your are saying very succinctly.
 

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I upgraded three PCs to Windows 8 Pro. Two were 64-bit and one was 32-bit. I used the 64-bit ISO from one of the 64-bit systems to do a clean install on the 32-bit system, so all three are 64-bit now. The product keys are the same for both.

How could you do that?
 

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See post #11. Might answer your question.
 

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He probably downloaded from a X64 system then created the .iso or a flash drive. Once you have that, it can be installed on any computer as long as you have a valif key, right?
 

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Apparently so with a clean install and any version of Windows running. At least that's what I concluded in post #11.
 

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I upgraded three PCs to Windows 8 Pro. Two were 64-bit and one was 32-bit. I used the 64-bit ISO from one of the 64-bit systems to do a clean install on the 32-bit system, so all three are 64-bit now. The product keys are the same for both.
How could you do that?



Each time I upgraded one of my PCs, I downloaded the ISO for the upgrade, which is the same as the full install disk. After upgrading one of my PCs (the one that had the 32-bit version of Windows 7), I did a clean install with the 64-bit disk. All three of my PCs were upgraded to Windows 8, the clean installs were performed using the 64-bit upgrade disk by booting to the disk and starting a clean install. Once complete, you may receive the following message when trying to activate:


"Code 0xC004F061" Windows cannot be activated due to not being an upgrade.


1. Launch the command prompt as an administrator (Windows key & X –or CMD X if running on a Mac).


2. Type regedit and press enter.


3. Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE


4. Look for the item MediaBootInstall and set the status to 0


5. Close regedit and head back to the command prompt that should be still open.


6. Type slmgr /rearm and restart when prompted.



You will have an activated clean install of Windows 8.
 

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He probably downloaded from a X64 system then created the .iso or a flash drive. Once you have that, it can be installed on any computer as long as you have a valif key, right?

Yes. This is correct. If you don't feel comfortable editing your registry, you can call Microsoft support, and they will assist you with activating Windows 8.
 

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What I get is:

You use the same product key on 2 computers.

I am totally confused.
 

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I upgraded three PCs to Windows 8 Pro. Two were 64-bit and one was 32-bit. I used the 64-bit ISO from one of the 64-bit systems to do a clean install on the 32-bit system, so all three are 64-bit now. The product keys are the same for both.
How could you do that?



Each time I upgraded one of my PCs, I downloaded the ISO for the upgrade, which is the same as the full install disk. After upgrading one of my PCs (the one that had the 32-bit version of Windows 7), I did a clean install with the 64-bit disk. All three of my PCs were upgraded to Windows 8, the clean installs were performed using the 64-bit upgrade disk by booting to the disk and starting a clean install. Once complete, you may receive the following message when trying to activate:


"Code 0xC004F061" Windows cannot be activated due to not being an upgrade.


1. Launch the command prompt as an administrator (Windows key & X –or CMD X if running on a Mac).


2. Type regedit and press enter.


3. Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE


4. Look for the item MediaBootInstall and set the status to 0


5. Close regedit and head back to the command prompt that should be still open.


6. Type slmgr /rearm and restart when prompted.



You will have an activated clean install of Windows 8.
I think I know the answer, but please clarify what you were running on your 3 machine at their upgrade times. I think it was 2 64-bit Win7's and 1 32-bit Win7--all upgraded to 64-bit Win8. You did 3 actual upgrades, right? You said something about all the product keys being the same. Please clarify that too.
 

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