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Recovery Partition Created By Windows 8 Install

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    I would go with Paragon.

    How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.

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    Yes I'm going to give it a go, nothing else seems to be working, this started out to be a 10 minute job, it only takes about 6 minutes to take an image off one SSD. And put it on to the other yet it just won't boot, I keep getting BOSD's all the time, first time since Windows 98.

    it just would have been nice not to have to reinstall everything, not that it would take that long, but it just would have been nice.
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    All done, very painless but for some reason my libraries are no longer working Music, Video and Photos. Every time I try to enter them, it says it's safe to delete them, bit weird, any suggestions.

    Looks like Paragon is the way to go.No idea why DXML doesn't work.

    Fixed the libraries just deleted them, restored them, and all the files were still there, still a bit weird but it worked.
    Last edited by BillWindows; 15 Jan 2013 at 22:05.
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    Thanks SIW2 and theog, you've saved me quite a bit of work.
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    Not sure what is going on with your libraries.

    Maybe try deleting and setting them up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Not sure what is going on with your libraries.

    Maybe try deleting and setting them up again.
    Yes, I did delete them and restored them, everything's still there the music and videos, who knows, weird.

    Its been a funny 24hrs, but Paragon certainly did the job, I'm just not sure about the legality of doing things this way because I was told by MS I would have to buy another licence.

    I told them I wanted to talk to someone from an English speaking country, they transferred me to a guy who claimed to be Australian but for some reason he sounded like an Indian Taxi driver.

    I just didn't want to start over again with the new drive and I'm going to clean the old one and put a New Windows 8 licence on the old one for the wife.

    Oh yeah I forgot, the taxi driver I mean technician told me if I wanted anymore info I would have to pay for it, anyway at about this juncture I told him he was giving me a headache and hung up.
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  7. #17


    It's not a sure thing that you'll see a Microsoft Recovery partition. It depends how the install is done. My son's laptop came with Windows 8 pre-installed by the OEM on a GPT layout, so he's got the Microsoft Recovery partition, followed by the EFI partition, followed by the system partition (which I re-partitioned into two partitions for software and data), followed by the OEM recovery partition. And somewhere at the end of the disk is another copy of the partition table.

    It's also possible to have the recovery tools as part of the system partition, rather than in a separate partition. But in that case, if your C:\ drive gets hosed you have to boot from a Windows 8 install media to use the recovery tools.

    As for backing up: I moved from Partition Magic - there will never be better - to Norton Ghost after PM was acquired by Symantec. Ghost sucked footballs so I moved on to Acronis. That was fine for a while, until Acronis succumbed to feature creep rather than making its basic functionality work properly.

    My next stop was ShadowProtect Desktop. Expensive, but it's industrial strength and totally reliable. The problem is, it's really aimed at the enterprise and servers. It lacks many features that matter to a home user - like waking the computer when it's time for a backup - and support sort of 'puts up' with home users. What killed it in the end for me is that it's really not ready for GPT.

    I auditioned Macrium Reflect. It's okay but I'm not crazy about it. The interface isn't very intuitive (to me), it has an obscure file naming method, it can't collapse incrementals, it comes with scripting capabilities (in VBS and MS-DOS) for which I have no use, and it includes file backup but not in zip format. Plus, it's expensive for what you get.

    Next up will be Paragon, which I think will be my choice. I really liked the program the last time I checked it out, but I was put off by the funky English translation by a recent Berlitz graduate, Now it has a U.S.-based user forum where Paragon reps participate in native English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    at one stage I just did a clean install onto the new SSD and guess what, no system reserved partition, and yet it booted just fine
    Where is the system partition and the hidden recovery folder?

    Paragon does it fine: PARAGON Software Group - partition manager, drive backup, hard disk partitioning

    There is a free/giveaway/cover version of Paragon Drive Copy Compact 12 floating around.
    I think the all in one sounds like a good idea. Does it really do all the things the "component" programs do?

    I like to do things the easy way when possible. For years, I used Acronis True Image and its separate partitioning program (can't recall the name of the second right now). The True Image interface got so confusing over the years I now have quit using it (having uninstalled True Image 2013). Do you have any comments about the intuitiveness of the Paragon interface(s) in general or in comparison with True Image. I pretty much don't like to do things if I have to read about how to do or if I encounter non-standard terminology.

    Does Paragon deal simply and efficiently with UEFI installations, GPT vs MBR, etc.?
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    For Paragon 12 paid for versions, fully supports Windows 8, uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot, & is signed by Microsoft.
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    Cool, thanks for your input.
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