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Unpartitioned hard drive; Can I install windows 8?

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    Unpartitioned hard drive; Can I install windows 8?

    I have a Windows 8 DVD(got it from a tech seminar in our college)and a license key from Dreamspark. I ran Upgrade assistant and it showed some compatibility details, beside those apps and sidebar these are my concerns:
    1.Secure Boot isn't compatible with your PC

    Your PC's firmware doesn't support Secure Boot so you won't be able to use it in Windows 8.
    2.Dell Stage


    What really is Secure Boot and is it really necessary after I installed windows 8?

    My second concern is that I have unpartitioned hard drive, there's only C drive which has about 60 gb free space out of 581 gb. I'm confused because I used to format my old windows xp PC now and then and it has three drives and during the format process I would choose windows xp to install in C drive and in order to do so I would follow the delete partition process. I knew very less about what I was doing when I used to format it. I just memorized the steps. So i was wondering if during the upgrade process it removes all data from C drive and installs windows 8 in an empty drive like it used to be during XP installation. I kinda know that that won't happen and it'll be all right but just to be sure I'm asking for help over here. Please enlighten me
    Oh, btw I'm upgrading win 8 in my Dell inspiron 15 R with genuine win 7. It's a 2 yr old laptop so I guess it has UEFI, not sure though. Thanks.

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    You have 1 partition. You can't install on an unpartitioned drive.

    Don't worry about secure boot. I also can't use it my. My life is not likely to be different. Just search on secure boot if you want to understand. There must be two trillion online sources related to secure boot.

    Please say what you want to do when it comes to installing 8. For, example, is your disc an upgrade disc, and do you want to upgrade a previous version--say Win7 to Win8?
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    Welcome to EightForums.

    Always best to start with Unpartitioned space.

    Take a look at step 7 in this tutorial:
    Clean Install - Windows 8

    If you do have uEFI,Take a look at step 4 in this tutorial:
    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with

    Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Secure boot

    See also: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface#Secure boot and Hardware restrictions#Windows 8

    Windows 8 supports a feature of the UEFI specification known as "Secure boot", which uses a public-key infrastructure to verify the integrity of the operating system and prevent unauthorized programs such as bootkits from infecting the device.

    Despite the security benefits of the feature, Microsoft faced criticism (particularly from free software supporters) for mandating that devices receiving its optional certification for Windows 8 have secure boot enabled by default using a key provided by Microsoft. Concerns were raised that secure boot could prevent or hinder the use of alternate operating systems such as Linux. In response to the criticism, Microsoft developer Tony Mangefeste stated that "At the end of the day, the customer is in control of their PC. Microsoft’s philosophy is to provide customers with the best experience first, and allow them to make decisions themselves."

    Microsoft's certification requirements eventually revealed that UEFI firmware on x86 systems must allow users to re-configure or turn off secure boot, but that this must not be possible on ARM-based systems (Windows RT). Microsoft faced further criticism for its decision to restrict Windows RT devices by using this functionality, despite it being consistent with other consumer electronics with similar protection measures. No mandate is made regarding the installation of third-party certificates that would enable running alternative software
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    SO what exactly is unallocated space? and why isn't C drive seen in the pic? Is it possible to find your unallocated disk space before running the setup? As I stated before I only have C drive so is it safe to run the setup? Where will it install Win8? In order to install Win 8, Win 7 files should be deleted right? and since those are on my C drive then wouldn't it delete the whole of it or will it delete just the system files of Win 7 and leave other documents as it is?

    PS: I found this on Disk Management, thought it would be relevant:
    100 MB Helathy OEM Partition
    Recovery 14.65 GB NTFS Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition)
    OS (C 581.42 GB NTFS Helathy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition)
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    Unallocated disk space is the same as Unpartitioned disk space
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    So can it be known prior to installing win 8?
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    You might reply to my post.
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    yeah I have Win 7 and I want to upgrade it to Win 8; not sure what type of CD though. They gave it to me in a tech seminar and asked me to get serial from dream spark. Got the serial but haven't put the CD in laptop yet!!
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    Start up to the DVD, and see what your install options are? Be careful to not start the installation. Be sure all your data are backed up before taking even this step. Post back when you find out what kind of disc you have. We could sort of blunder ahead without knowing, but things should go better if we know up front.

    Do you have uEFI interface or a solid state drive? If you have a regular BIOS, then you don't have uEFI. That's fine if true. How old is your machine?
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    Hi, it just says "Install Now" but I didn't click on it. Like I said earlier it's 2 yrs old Dell Inspiron 15R M5010.
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