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Unpartitioned hard drive; Can I install windows 8?

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    Oh and I've got 526 GB data, how can I backup? Do I need an external hard drive?

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    I overstated my case. I am not quite sure about what's over the next hill. I have one DVD where you would be able to choose an upgrade or a clean install (not upgrade). The essential differences between these two are covered briefly below. Considering your source, you may have such a disc.

    I have never installed using an upgrade DVD in installing 8. But, you would have the option of doing a clean install (with or without formatting; I would format) or an upgrade install (i.e., even though both generally are upgrades if you have an upgrade disc). If you do the upgrade install (not a clean one), then you run the risk of negative things about your 7 install being carried forward to your 8 install. But, you would not have to reinstall your programs (incompatible ones will not be carried forward); your files will not be deleted; and your setting will be maintained generally. If you do the clean (upgrade) install (with or without formatting), then count your files and programs being gone (except that your files might end up in a Windows.old folder--sorry can't remember exactly).

    Above, I am not able to cover everything that might be pertinent. There are some install tutorials in the tutorial section of the forum; try and check them out. They may be confusing to you for a variety of legitimate reasons. Maybe you need to decide if you want to install 8 or not. But, as said, at the point of installing, no matter how you do it, you absolutely must have all your files backed up externally. I would use a new-ish properly formatted external drive in doing the backup.
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    Isn't it possible to do partition first? like I'll make an E: drive with 500 GB with all my files(movies, musics)and there will be C: drive with 80 GB and all system files only and then I'll install Win 8 in C:, that way it'll delete Win 7 system files and install Win 8 there. Is it possible? If yes then how? I've got this software minitool partition magic but all it does is makes an E: drive out of the free space available in C drive right now i.e. around 50 GB.
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    Upgrade to Windows 8 with only a product key - Microsoft Windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Microsoft

    Make sure you’re on the PC you want to upgrade. This must be a PC that is currently running Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP with Service Pack 3 (SP3), Windows 8 Release Preview, Windows 8 Consumer Preview, or Windows Developer Preview. (Windows 8 Setup checks that your PC meets all system requirements before it installs Windows 8.)

    Have your product key handy. You can find it in your online order information, in the confirmation email for your purchase, or on the packaging. The product key will look something like this:
    XXXXX- XXXXX- XXXXX- XXXXX- XXXXX

    Make a backup of everything you want to keep. Save it somewhere you can get to it later, like an external drive or a DVD.

    Always better to do a clean install.

    Clean Install with Windows 8 Upgrade

    Restore Backup User and System Files - Windows 7 Forums
    Backup - Restore Files and Folders from in Windows 8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikal11 View Post
    Isn't it possible to do partition first? like I'll make an E: drive with 500 GB with all my files(movies, musics)and there will be C: drive with 80 GB and all system files only and then I'll install Win 8 in C:, that way it'll delete Win 7 system files and install Win 8 there. Is it possible? If yes then how? I've got this software minitool partition magic but all it does is makes an E: drive out of the free space available in C drive right now i.e. around 50 GB.
    Ignoring all related details, yes, it is possible to do use two partitions to accomplish what you mention. I never bother, but some wanting every ounce of performance do so. Ignoring that possibility, see option 2 in theog's third tutorial link: Clean Install with Windows Upgrade. And, here is another tutorial. Back up before doing any installation.
    Last edited by znod; 12 Jan 2013 at 05:32.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikal11 View Post
    Hi, it just says "Install Now" but I didn't click on it. Like I said earlier it's 2 yrs old Dell Inspiron 15R M5010.
    Here is another clean install tutorial. Step 5 and beyond deal with what happens after "Install Now."
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    You have 1 partition. You can't install on an unpartitioned drive.
    I have only used the Upgrade version. That allows you to delete all partitions from the target drive. The installer will create partitions and format that automatically.

    Your statement is technically true but misleading.
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    I wasn't replying to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    I wasn't replying to you.
    Sorry. I hadn't realized forum etiquette had changed, and that I was no longer allowed to respond to postings that aren't directed at me.

    And, I've never managed to completely swear off sarcasm.
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    My comment was a bit loose. I wanted OP to know, in response to his claim that he has an unpartitioned drive (yet showing his used/free space and that be is running Win7 in his system specs), that he actually has one partition and that he had to have a partition to have an installed Win7. Your potshot was pointless because it provided nothing useful to the OP and did not attempt to clarify matters--i.e., why my comment was misleading even though it was true.
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