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How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.

  1. #91


    Quote Originally Posted by donandy2005 View Post
    I HAVE DONE IT. LISTEN HERE!!!!! PARAGON 14 (NOT 15 cause it has errors) WORKS!!! believe me i spent 24 continuous hours trying to make cloning work...i tried every software i could find...NOTHING WORKS.

    PARAGON HARD DISK MANAGER SUITE 14 IS THE ANSWER!!!!!
    Too bad you didn't ask me. I've been using "Ghost", since 1979 for disk cloning and it still works a treat.
    However, after windows 7 I had to upgrade to "Ghost 11.5". It's the last version that still runs in DOS.
    Symantec has abandoned it and even says that it doesn't exist. So,
    I googled it, just for fun since I already had it, and found an ISO for a boot disk just floating around out there in eSpace.

    Cheers Mates!
    TechnoMage

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  2. #92


    Zagreb
    Posts : 12
    Windows 8.1 64x


    I bought laptop and I put ssd instead dvd drive, everything with reflect cloning whole disk worked well but I think my registry is courrupted now ( I lost Office licence from Microsoft, java swing apps (any JetBrains IDE, JEdit, Configure Java screen...) won't show on screen, everything else is working as before) any suggestion how to fix registry?
    Last edited by fpopic; 21 Jan 2015 at 09:58.
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  3. #93


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    reinstall those apps.. QuickBooks license won't clone either.. Never had an issue with retail disk install office..
    I would think the license(s) where via online activation and not actually store on PC..
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  4. #94


    Zagreb
    Posts : 12
    Windows 8.1 64x


    The license isn't problem, I have it on paper written down, I just wanted to show that something changed in registry, but how to reinstall Java, on JetBrains forums no one knows what is causing problems to Swing, I have reinstalled all versions of Java JDK and JRE one by one (x64 and x32, jdk7, jdk8), and all JetBrains products (Android Studio, IDEA, PyCharm) but after re-installing I always get the same message https://devnet.jetbrains.com/message/5533036#5533036

    I don't even know is that because of cloning disk (after first start of IDEA on cloned i got it ) or anything else because my last disk clone didn't make such problems.

    Maybe is the problem that my ssd is not on same SATA connector where the original HDD was ?

    If this forum isn't right place to ask could you please tell me where to ask problems about windows java registry instances ?
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  5. #95


    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I had nearly the same problem happen to me a few days ago -- and I've been migrating installs to SSDs for some time now, without any problems.

    I had a new install of Win8.1 working (temporarily) on a spare hard drive. Once I had it configured completely, I imaged it off to an external drive (using the same Macrium Reflect tool I've used hundreds of times). I then inserted an SSD and "restored" that image to the SSD (again, having done this many times before). Finally, I removed the hard drive and rebooted using the SSD.

    I started having your kinds of problems almost immediately! In addition, some apps would not launch, and others would freeze. On a second reboot, I was greeted with a black screen and "HI" -- which is one of the first things you see when doing final configuration of new Win8 installs.

    I repeated the process, this time with a different SSD, and in two days now, have not had a single problem.

    The only difference in the two situations was the SSD used.

    The one that "failed" is a Kingston HyperX 3 -- and I'm in the process of trying to get an RMA established to return it.

    So, one strong possibility is that the SSD is "bad".
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  6. #96


    Zagreb
    Posts : 12
    Windows 8.1 64x


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I had nearly the same problem happen to me a few days ago -- and I've been migrating installs to SSDs for some time now, without any problems.

    I had a new install of Win8.1 working (temporarily) on a spare hard drive. Once I had it configured completely, I imaged it off to an external drive (using the same Macrium Reflect tool I've used hundreds of times). I then inserted an SSD and "restored" that image to the SSD (again, having done this many times before). Finally, I removed the hard drive and rebooted using the SSD.

    I started having your kinds of problems almost immediately! In addition, some apps would not launch, and others would freeze. On a second reboot, I was greeted with a black screen and "HI" -- which is one of the first things you see when doing final configuration of new Win8 installs.

    I repeated the process, this time with a different SSD, and in two days now, have not had a single problem.

    The only difference in the two situations was the SSD used.

    The one that "failed" is a Kingston HyperX 3 -- and I'm in the process of trying to get an RMA established to return it.

    So, one strong possibility is that the SSD is "bad".
    I have to same SSD disks, (chinese shinedisk from taobao) but probably you are right.
    When I get time I will perform clean Windows81 installation.
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  7. #97


    Posts : 1
    Window 8


    This is a great site, I've recent purchased a dell Inspiron 7000 and purchased the download version of paragon's is migrate and did a clone.

    Everything cloned and successful with no error during the cloning process but when I put the cloned ssd to boot it has an 0xc0000225 error code, I'm stuck at this point and is looking for solutions. Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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  8. #98

    Solved ! XPS 13 9333 (Haswell) SSD 256GB to 1TB upgrade


    I just completed an SSD upgrade (SSD to SSD) on my XPS 13 (Haswell)
    My system
    XPS 13 9333, i7, 8 GB Ram, 256 GB SSD, Windows 8.1 (upgraded to Pro), purchased 1 year ago

    HW I purchased for the upgrade

    • Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD from Amazon ($432 USD) (mSATA type, MZ-MTE1T0BW)
    • ZTC Sky Board mSata to USB 3.0 SSD enclosure adapter case from Amazon ($18.99 USD)
    • Tekton 2830 Everybit (27 piece) tool kit from Amazon ($11.49) – this kit has the Torx T5 required to remove the bottom cover from the Ultrabook


    SW research
    I did quite a bit of reading up on different HD migration software and had it down to 4 choices; Samsung (included SW), AOMEI Backupper, Acronis and Paragon. In my searching I didn’t see any head-to-head comparisons of these softwares with my type of upgrade. One of my criteria for backup was simplicity and reliability. In the simplicity category, I was looking for something that could backup in a “live” window environment. (i.e. software runs from windows desktop while transferring O.S. and entire contents of my drives and all partitions….to an external enclosure with my new drive)

    SW choice
    Samsung Data Migration: I tried this SW but it failed. See my comments under work flow
    Acronis: From what I read, Acronis doesn’t support a live SSD upgrade
    AOMEI: I couldn’t find enough information on this freeware to make me feel comfortable to use it
    Paragon Migrate O.S. to SSD: I ended up going with Paragon Migrate O.S. to SSD (although I did purchase the full SW suite “Paragon Drive Copy 15 Professional”

    Partitions
    One concern I had was the ability of the migration SW to copy over the partitions on my XPS13
    This is what I found out about the partitions on XPS13
    1 - 500 MB (EFI Partition) (REQUIRED)
    2 - 40 MB (OEM Partition) (reserved for Intel Rapid Start)
    3 - 490 MB (Recovery Partition) (Dell encrypted recovery partition)
    4 - 221.50 GB C: Drive (Boot, Page File, and Crash Dump) (REQUIRED)
    5 - 7.58 GB (Recovery Partition) (Dell encrypted recovery partition)
    6 - 8.01 GB (OEM Partition) (reserved for Intel Rapid Start)

    I wasn’t using Intel Rapid start. It was turned on when I got the purchased my XPS, but it caused problems (so I turned it off) and is not really so useful with an SSD equipped computer

    I read that the Dell recovery partitions are encrypted and tattooed to the original HDD, so they may appear to copy over to a new drive, but I read that they will not function. This I have yet to confirm.

    Work flow

    1. I updated all my backups using Dell Backup and Recovery. Note, I had made a recovery & repair image on USB flash drive when I purchase my computer. This USB key ended up being required!! (see later)
    2. Ordered the drive, external USB enclosure and took kit from Amazon
    3. Downloaded and installed “Samsung Data Migration” and “Samsung Magician” SW
    4. Installed the new 1TB drive into the external enclosure and connected the USB cable to my XPS
    5. Started Samsung Data Migration from Windows desktop
    6. The SW detected my new 1TB drive
    7. Not all partitions were seen on the source disk. The recovery partitions were not seen and this concerned me. (only 4 of 6 partitions seen)
    8. The default view was looking like only my C drive was going to be cloned. It looked like I had to manually select the partitions that I wanted copied.
    9. I manually selected the EFI partitions and the 2 partitions associated with Intel Rapid start, then clicked the + size to add them
    10. Those 3 partitions now appeared in the target drive window, but their sizes were much bigger
    11. The Samsung tool seems to allow you to resize, so I attempted this, using a mouse and sliding the partitions smaller. My goal was to make the partitions the same size as on the source disk, but the tool wouldn’t allow me to make them exactly the same size.
    12. When I started the migration, everything appeared to run, but then nothing happened….it seemed to freeze. I tried a couple of more times, and then gave up. I did read that Samsung Data Migration requires 20% free space to run, where-as I had only 10% free space.
    13. I purchased and installed Paragon Drive Copy 15 Professional. Note to anyone reading this, the cheaper Paragon Migrate O.S. to SSD is probably all you need, as so far, that is the only component I’ve used with the Pro suite.
    14. Started Paragon from desktop with external drive connected.
    15. I selected “Migrate O.S.”
    16. 3 partitions (EFI, recovery, C ) were automatically selected and appeared in my new drive as exactly the same size as on my old target drive. This looked better compared to the Samsung SW.
    17. I selected “Use all available space for the partition with OS
    18. I selected “Create new EFI entry for destination drive” << IMPORTANT if you don’t select this, when install your new drive it won’t boot. Also, once the migration is complete, you will not be able to boot from your old drive. This is the part where you take the “leap of faith”
    19. The manual says “click copy to initiate the migration process”, but additionally I had to click “APPLY” for the process to start.
    20. It took about 23 minutes to finish the migration with all green check boxes.
    21. I powered down.
    22. There are a few nice videos on youtube showing how to replace the SSD in the XPS 13.
    23. I removed all the torx T5 screws on the bottom.
    24. The Haswell version of the XPS13 does not have a Philips screw under the hinged door.
    25. The Haswell version of the XPS13 does not require you to use a special plastic spatula to free any bottom clips. Instead, the bottom simply lifts free after the torx screws are removed.
    26. Disconnected the battery plug
    27. Temporarily removed the black soft cover (stuck to top of old SSD)
    28. Removed single screw from old SSD
    29. Installed new SSD and reversed all steps
    30. When re-installing the bottom cover, first install all screws loosely and the progressively tighten them in and opposite sequence pattern (4 corners, then sides, then repeat) and do not over tighten.
    31. Powered up and got an error, blue screen and text “Your PC needs to be repaired. A required device isn’t connected. Error code 0x0000225”
    32. On next boot, I repeatedly pressed F12 key to bring up boot options. I saw Disk 0 and Disk 1. I tried changing that, but the same symptom remained.
    33. On next boot, pressed F2 key to bring up BIOS, but didn’t see anything in there to change.
    34. Looked at Paragon online support. With their purchased product for home users, there is no telephone support. Instead there is 30 days of free email support.
    35. I emailed Paragon support with the symptom.
    36. I got impatient and with the XPS powered off, inserted my Recovery USB key that I made when I purchased my computer.
    37. On the next boot I used F12 to go into boot menu and selected the USB key as boot device.
    38. Windows repair came up and I selected repair.
    39. After 20 seconds, it said repair complete or something like that.
    40. I booted the laptop and it came straight into Windows desktop.
    41. Everything looked ok, except I did get an informational pop-up saying (something like) Intel Rapid start is disabled. I assume this is because those (2) partitions were not copied over.
    42. I went into BIOS (F2) and disabled “Intel Rapid Start Technology”
    43. Through Windows control panel / Programs and Features, I uninstalled “Intel Rapid Start Technology”
    44. Upon startup the error message about Intel Rapid start did not occur anymore.
    45. I went into Samsung Magician and verified the SSD firmware was the latest.
    46. I went into Samsung Magician and optimized settings for the new SSD
    47. TBD can I delete the Dell recovery partition?


    Final partition arrangement
    500MB Healthy EFI System partition
    490MB Healthy Recovery partition
    OS (C 930.42GB Capacity (743GB free)

    Websites I’ve found useful

    Windows Eight Forums “How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.”
    How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.

    Notebook Review – XPS 13 (9333 Haswell) Owners Lounge
    XPS 13 (9333 Haswell) Owners Lounge | NotebookReview

    Dell Disk Drive Forum
    Disk Drives (HDD, CD/DVD, Blu-ray) Forum - Disk Drives - Dell Community
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  9. #99


    Quote Originally Posted by deathracer View Post
    I just completed an SSD upgrade (SSD to SSD) on my XPS 13 (Haswell)
    My system
    XPS 13 9333, i7, 8 GB Ram, 256 GB SSD, Windows 8.1 (upgraded to Pro), purchased 1 year ago

    HW I purchased for the upgrade

    • Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD from Amazon ($432 USD) (mSATA type, MZ-MTE1T0BW)
    • ZTC Sky Board mSata to USB 3.0 SSD enclosure adapter case from Amazon ($18.99 USD)
    • Tekton 2830 Everybit (27 piece) tool kit from Amazon ($11.49) – this kit has the Torx T5 required to remove the bottom cover from the Ultrabook


    SW research
    I did quite a bit of reading up on different HD migration software and had it down to 4 choices; Samsung (included SW), AOMEI Backupper, Acronis and Paragon. In my searching I didn’t see any head-to-head comparisons of these softwares with my type of upgrade. One of my criteria for backup was simplicity and reliability. In the simplicity category, I was looking for something that could backup in a “live” window environment. (i.e. software runs from windows desktop while transferring O.S. and entire contents of my drives and all partitions….to an external enclosure with my new drive)

    SW choice
    Samsung Data Migration: I tried this SW but it failed. See my comments under work flow
    Acronis: From what I read, Acronis doesn’t support a live SSD upgrade
    AOMEI: I couldn’t find enough information on this freeware to make me feel comfortable to use it
    Paragon Migrate O.S. to SSD: I ended up going with Paragon Migrate O.S. to SSD (although I did purchase the full SW suite “Paragon Drive Copy 15 Professional”

    Partitions
    One concern I had was the ability of the migration SW to copy over the partitions on my XPS13
    This is what I found out about the partitions on XPS13
    1 - 500 MB (EFI Partition) (REQUIRED)
    2 - 40 MB (OEM Partition) (reserved for Intel Rapid Start)
    3 - 490 MB (Recovery Partition) (Dell encrypted recovery partition)
    4 - 221.50 GB C: Drive (Boot, Page File, and Crash Dump) (REQUIRED)
    5 - 7.58 GB (Recovery Partition) (Dell encrypted recovery partition)
    6 - 8.01 GB (OEM Partition) (reserved for Intel Rapid Start)

    I wasn’t using Intel Rapid start. It was turned on when I got the purchased my XPS, but it caused problems (so I turned it off) and is not really so useful with an SSD equipped computer

    I read that the Dell recovery partitions are encrypted and tattooed to the original HDD, so they may appear to copy over to a new drive, but I read that they will not function. This I have yet to confirm.

    Work flow

    1. I updated all my backups using Dell Backup and Recovery. Note, I had made a recovery & repair image on USB flash drive when I purchase my computer. This USB key ended up being required!! (see later)
    2. Ordered the drive, external USB enclosure and took kit from Amazon
    3. Downloaded and installed “Samsung Data Migration” and “Samsung Magician” SW
    4. Installed the new 1TB drive into the external enclosure and connected the USB cable to my XPS
    5. Started Samsung Data Migration from Windows desktop
    6. The SW detected my new 1TB drive
    7. Not all partitions were seen on the source disk. The recovery partitions were not seen and this concerned me. (only 4 of 6 partitions seen)
    8. The default view was looking like only my C drive was going to be cloned. It looked like I had to manually select the partitions that I wanted copied.
    9. I manually selected the EFI partitions and the 2 partitions associated with Intel Rapid start, then clicked the + size to add them
    10. Those 3 partitions now appeared in the target drive window, but their sizes were much bigger
    11. The Samsung tool seems to allow you to resize, so I attempted this, using a mouse and sliding the partitions smaller. My goal was to make the partitions the same size as on the source disk, but the tool wouldn’t allow me to make them exactly the same size.
    12. When I started the migration, everything appeared to run, but then nothing happened….it seemed to freeze. I tried a couple of more times, and then gave up. I did read that Samsung Data Migration requires 20% free space to run, where-as I had only 10% free space.
    13. I purchased and installed Paragon Drive Copy 15 Professional. Note to anyone reading this, the cheaper Paragon Migrate O.S. to SSD is probably all you need, as so far, that is the only component I’ve used with the Pro suite.
    14. Started Paragon from desktop with external drive connected.
    15. I selected “Migrate O.S.”
    16. 3 partitions (EFI, recovery, C ) were automatically selected and appeared in my new drive as exactly the same size as on my old target drive. This looked better compared to the Samsung SW.
    17. I selected “Use all available space for the partition with OS
    18. I selected “Create new EFI entry for destination drive” << IMPORTANT if you don’t select this, when install your new drive it won’t boot. Also, once the migration is complete, you will not be able to boot from your old drive. This is the part where you take the “leap of faith”
    19. The manual says “click copy to initiate the migration process”, but additionally I had to click “APPLY” for the process to start.
    20. It took about 23 minutes to finish the migration with all green check boxes.
    21. I powered down.
    22. There are a few nice videos on youtube showing how to replace the SSD in the XPS 13.
    23. I removed all the torx T5 screws on the bottom.
    24. The Haswell version of the XPS13 does not have a Philips screw under the hinged door.
    25. The Haswell version of the XPS13 does not require you to use a special plastic spatula to free any bottom clips. Instead, the bottom simply lifts free after the torx screws are removed.
    26. Disconnected the battery plug
    27. Temporarily removed the black soft cover (stuck to top of old SSD)
    28. Removed single screw from old SSD
    29. Installed new SSD and reversed all steps
    30. When re-installing the bottom cover, first install all screws loosely and the progressively tighten them in and opposite sequence pattern (4 corners, then sides, then repeat) and do not over tighten.
    31. Powered up and got an error, blue screen and text “Your PC needs to be repaired. A required device isn’t connected. Error code 0x0000225”
    32. On next boot, I repeatedly pressed F12 key to bring up boot options. I saw Disk 0 and Disk 1. I tried changing that, but the same symptom remained.
    33. On next boot, pressed F2 key to bring up BIOS, but didn’t see anything in there to change.
    34. Looked at Paragon online support. With their purchased product for home users, there is no telephone support. Instead there is 30 days of free email support.
    35. I emailed Paragon support with the symptom.
    36. I got impatient and with the XPS powered off, inserted my Recovery USB key that I made when I purchased my computer.
    37. On the next boot I used F12 to go into boot menu and selected the USB key as boot device.
    38. Windows repair came up and I selected repair.
    39. After 20 seconds, it said repair complete or something like that.
    40. I booted the laptop and it came straight into Windows desktop.
    41. Everything looked ok, except I did get an informational pop-up saying (something like) Intel Rapid start is disabled. I assume this is because those (2) partitions were not copied over.
    42. I went into BIOS (F2) and disabled “Intel Rapid Start Technology”
    43. Through Windows control panel / Programs and Features, I uninstalled “Intel Rapid Start Technology”
    44. Upon startup the error message about Intel Rapid start did not occur anymore.
    45. I went into Samsung Magician and verified the SSD firmware was the latest.
    46. I went into Samsung Magician and optimized settings for the new SSD
    47. TBD can I delete the Dell recovery partition?


    Final partition arrangement
    500MB Healthy EFI System partition
    490MB Healthy Recovery partition
    OS (C 930.42GB Capacity (743GB free)

    Websites I’ve found useful

    Windows Eight Forums “How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.”
    How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.

    Notebook Review – XPS 13 (9333 Haswell) Owners Lounge
    XPS 13 (9333 Haswell) Owners Lounge | NotebookReview

    Dell Disk Drive Forum
    Disk Drives (HDD, CD/DVD, Blu-ray) Forum - Disk Drives - Dell Community
    Great post. Now if you have found Macrium Reflect Free addition all that would have been accomplished in about 3 steps 2 of which would physically installing and removing physical drives. Well add one to turn off rapid mode so that all your data would be back on your hard drive not in system RAM.
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  10. #100


    Posts : 511
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    I just did this on my wife's Dell PC with Win 7. I used AOMEI Backerupper with no problems. It was from a 80 gig HD to a 1TB HD. All I had to do was resize the partitions and change the boot order. Worked perfectly.
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