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Sata Controller Driver missing form Wndows 8 for Acer Aspi

  1. #31


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Well OK, it seems one way or another you managed to get it done. I have no idea why it proved to be so difficult? Hopefully you don't run into any other problems that would force a re-install.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 68
    Windows 8 Pro 64-bit


    It works fine and very fast two the 64bit OS to a 64bit Acer Aspire's 5920g arch.

    But i still need an anser for:

    a) I forgot to mention that in all 3 cases above the Setup didn't told me when i hit enter in the unallocated sbpace that Win8 Setup must create apart from the Win8 OS partiton a 350MB system reserved partition. This is maybe relevant here concering the BCD invalid or missing display screen.

    b) In SCENARIO 2: I maybe Booted into Vista's safe cmd mode but when iam initiating a Windows 8 Setup...then Windows 8 pre installation enviroment takes place.
    Is it because Win8 Setup is a child process derived from Vista itself that's why it wont allow me to partition it?
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  3. #33


    Posts : 68
    Windows 8 Pro 64-bit


    Scenario 3:
    -----------
    After ALL the above steps i booted again from within the Win8 USB Setup and this time partitions were detected and presented.
    I clicked on unallocated space, files copied and re-booted OK, Win8 Started FINALLY.

    HOW ON EARTH THIS TIME Win8 Setup identified the HDD which up until now it couldn't detect?

    Same USB, same slipsteamed image, same BIOS.

    The job got done without extra drivers and without BIOS upate but still leave blanks.
    After ALL this hassle it would be nice to know why it finally worked (I can use the same trick other times in other old machines too).
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  4. #34


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by nikos View Post
    It works fine and very fast two the 64bit OS to a 64bit Acer Aspire's 5920g arch.

    But i still need an anser for:

    a) I forgot to mention that in all 3 cases above the Setup didn't told me when i hit enter in the unallocated sbpace that Win8 Setup must create apart from the Win8 OS partiton a 350MB system reserved partition. This is maybe relevant here concering the BCD invalid or missing display screen.

    b) In SCENARIO 2: I maybe Booted into Vista's safe cmd mode but when iam initiating a Windows 8 Setup...then Windows 8 pre installation enviroment takes place.
    Is it because Win8 Setup is a child process derived from Vista itself that's why it wont allow me to partition it?
    In answer to a), I personally don't remember ever doing an install of Win 7 or 8 without the system reserved being created. I have heard people say it may be skipped if the drive is pre-partitioned.


    In answer to b), you're still running the Windows 8 setup from within Windows Vista. The Windows 8 setup doesn't completely take over and replace the Vista environment. Once you boot up to Vista even in safe mode with command prompt its resident and doesn't go away until you reboot.

    My drive is partitioned into [system reserved][OS partition][data partition]. When I do a reinstall I delete the system reserved and the OS partition. Then I create a new partition in the unallocated space. When I do that Windows prompts me that it may need to create the system reserved and it does. I leave the data partition alone, that's where my documents, pictures and music files are. I haven't installed from a CD or DVD in ages, not since I ditched XP. I do everything from thumb drives. The only thing I can think of that may be the cause of your problems is that there may have been a custom boot sector on the drive for the factory restore option. When I went from Vista to 7 on my 5920 I deleted all the partitions on the drive including the factory restore partition. My drive was completely blank.
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  5. #35


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by nikos View Post
    Scenario 3:
    -----------
    After ALL the above steps i booted again from within the Win8 USB Setup and this time partitions were detected and presented.
    I clicked on unallocated space, files copied and re-booted OK, Win8 Started FINALLY.

    HOW ON EARTH THIS TIME Win8 Setup identified the HDD which up until now it couldn't detect?

    Same USB, same slipsteamed image, same BIOS.

    The job got done without extra drivers and without BIOS upate but still leave blanks.
    After ALL this hassle it would be nice to know why it finally worked (I can use the same trick other times in other old machines too).
    I've seen you use the term "unallocated space" a few times and just want to make sure we are on the same page. Unallocated space is unformatted unpartitioned space. Is that what you are referring to when you use that term? If the space is already partitioned but empty and you install to that partition that may explain why your not getting a system reserved.

    Also what do you mean by "same slipstreamed image". Slipstreamed to me means something was added to the original image.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 68
    Windows 8 Pro 64-bit


    My drive is partitioned into [system reserved][OS partition][data partition]
    We use the same partition setup.
    By
    Unallocated space i, as you, mean unformatted unpartitioned space, yes.

    The only thing I can think of that may be the cause of your problems is that there may have been a custom boot sector on the drive for the factory restore option.
    When I went from Vista to 7 on my 5920 I deleted all the partitions on the drive including the factory restore partition. My drive was completely blank.


    There isnt a custom boot sector from factory years now i use the same perspective as you do.
    Even if it was like that or
    if the partition or boot sector was "affected" by Vista when i shutdown and open 5920G and Boot from Win8 USB Setup it can present me the HDD info which it couldn't all previous steps before see.

    Are you implying that it reads ths info from the HDD looking the Boot Sector?
    That is not possible!
    How could it be able to read somethign from the Sata HDD when it Cannot detect the Sata Controller itself?

    I delet ALL partition and create one unallocated space, i dont partition it just i hit enter on that, and then Win8 popups and tellsme that it will need to create a system reserve partition for its instalaltion purposes.
    I hit enetr on unallocatesd space i dont partition the unallocated space first and then hit enter on one of the available partitions.




    ps:Slipstemens image by using nLite that ahs embedded both x32 and x64 version of win8 flavots.Total 8 diffWin8 version but every one of them UNTOUCHED.
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  7. #37


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    All I can say is "I don't know the same things you don't know". It's still a mystery to me as to why the drive didn't show up?
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  8. #38


    Posts : 68
    Windows 8 Pro 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    All I can say is "I don't know the same things you don't know". It's still a mystery to me as to why the drive didn't show up?
    Yes the drive wasn't showing up within Win8 Setup attempts from scratch, but IT DID show up after initiating and completing the Win8 OS installation process via Vista's Safe mode with CMD, which in their turn it didn't boot the computer successfully and provided the BCD invalid or missing error.

    In the next boot form Win8 Setup from scratch this time HDD info was provided.......

    But thats a mystery as to how since the hdd sata controller driver wasnt present and bios didnt got updated, so that leaved the question "From where the hell did it found information to identify the HDD".
    Certainly NOT from the HDD itself since to read soemthign from the HDD you must prior detect the Media(HDD) which you need to access the information from.

    I'am about to snap any moment now.....


    ps: Also

    If i Boot with GParted and create [350MB System Reserve for Win8 BCD][OS partition][Data partition]

    save that partition table and then re-boot from Win8 USB Setup will it be able to present me the hdd partition info?

    But what makes me think booting Win8 from scratch that it will display the HDD partitioning table correctly that time?

    But how come it did with the Win8 Setup installation from within Vista before?
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  9. #39


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I don't know? Since I'm not there to see exactly what's happening I can only guess. If you mess around with gparted now you'll likely mess something up. There is more to it than just creating the partitions, the correct files have to be in the correct place for the OS to boot up correctly. As we've already seen, if they are miss matched you get errors. My suspicion is it's your all in one install media. I'd like to see what happens if you boot from unmodified install media.
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  10. #40


    Posts : 68
    Windows 8 Pro 64-bit


    I tried it other MSDN untouched versions, same situation.

    One other thing:

    Is it the same
    Deleting all partitions and hiting enter to the unallocated space to install Win8

    opposed to
    Deleting all partitions, create a whole space new Win8 partition and hiting enter to that selection to install Win8 there?

    Wont in both cases a popup appear telling you that a system reserved partition needs to be placed to for win8 to work properly?


    And by the way what info is being placed on the system reserved partition anyway? Boot Configuration Data?
    Why it need tl be 350 MB too?

    As for GParted:
    GParted will only create the partion table and save it.
    Then we can only hope Win8 Setup will identify the partition GParted saved and act from there.
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