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Moving pre-installed Windows 8 from HDD to SSD

  1. #71


    THEOG! IT WORKED! +1 for Paragon. Ohh the hours and hours I could have saved if i'd bought this first! Thanks so much for your help here.

    I suspect the alignment is 4000kb rather than the prfereffer 1020kb? Checking this now and hope this is fixable in a straightforward way.

    I like the way Win 8 is optimising (trimming) the drive once a week - never seen this tool in my SSD install on main desktop machine that runs Win 7. I wonder if its trimming there?

    Anyway will report back on the alignment possibility with Samsungs bundled sware.

    Meantime I will be asking Farstone for my money back - still no response to my support request but the holidays wont have helped any business here.


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  2. #72


    I found this and seem aligned:

    To check the alignment of your SSD's partition, it is quite simple.

    In windows 7, run msinfo32 by typing it into the search box on your start menu and hitting enter.
    click on: components => storage => disks
    Look for your SSD and check the partition starting offset.
    It needs to be divisible by 4096 (ie return a whole number when you divide by this) otherwise the alignment is not correct.
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  3. #73


    This app checks alignment Download AS SSD benchmark 1.7.4739 - Technical Details - FileHippo.com

    Hover the mouse in the top left box and it will indicate alignment or not.

    Getting almost 500Mbps read and 400Mbps best write on the SSD :-)
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  4. #74


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8


    The OG, you are a mofo'n OG. This method will become THE defacto method for cloning an HDD to an SSD once google moves this thread closer to the first results.

    The only problem I had encountered was that Paragon software allowed me to migrate the disk without initializing it first, which caused problems at reboot. I initialized it before hand it worked flawlessly. Thank you theog, diesel, and especially Epoch for so clearly articulating your problem which I have painfully endured for almost 2 weeks.
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  5. #75


    Posts : 25
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by jwarchal View Post
    Computer booted to windows in lless than 15 seconds included pw entry. Only problem was that the OneKey recovery doesn't work now, but I already had created a USB recovery back up drive with the recovery partition using Windows. Alternately, I believe if you call Lenovo and tell them that the Onekey Recovery is not working they will send you the recovery discs.

    I reinstalled the HDD and set it up for storage. You can reformat the whole drive if you want the space, but I would make sure you have some way of doing the system recovery either with discs from Lenovo or a recovery drive. I think I may call Lenovo to see if I can get a set of the discs as a backup. If I a do, I might try to do a fresh install to the SSD to see if I can get the OneKey recovery working and then reformat the HDD for just storage.
    I didn't get the EaseUS clone to boot, but the free Paragon program runs the OneKey Recovery. I haven't actually done it to see if the image would burn correctly, but I DID copy the recovery partition from my SSD onto a USB. I have already started personalizing the OS so I am not going to try to reinstall using the recovery drive, but everything else has worked so I think that should.

    Quote Originally Posted by diesele View Post
    I found this and seem aligned:

    To check the alignment of your SSD's partition, it is quite simple.

    In windows 7, run msinfo32 by typing it into the search box on your start menu and hitting enter.
    click on: components => storage => disks
    Look for your SSD and check the partition starting offset.
    It needs to be divisible by 4096 (ie return a whole number when you divide by this) otherwise the alignment is not correct.
    Yup I found this out independently and I checked and the number was divisible by 4096.

    Quote Originally Posted by diesele View Post
    This app checks alignment Download AS SSD benchmark 1.7.4739 - Technical Details - FileHippo.com

    Hover the mouse in the top left box and it will indicate alignment or not.

    Getting almost 500Mbps read and 400Mbps best write on the SSD :-)
    The test of my Samsung 830 using the Magician software got 500Mbps read and 400Mbps write too.

    Quote Originally Posted by theslyprofessor View Post
    The OG, you are a mofo'n OG. This method will become THE defacto method for cloning an HDD to an SSD once google moves this thread closer to the first results.

    The only problem I had encountered was that Paragon software allowed me to migrate the disk without initializing it first, which caused problems at reboot. I initialized it before hand it worked flawlessly. Thank you theog, diesel, and especially Epoch for so clearly articulating your problem which I have painfully endured for almost 2 weeks.
    Yeah, perhaps I should edit my first post and place a walkthrough of what worked for me? I started this thread because I was getting fed up with the problem and I just couldn't believe that no one on the internet had solved the problem yet. As time went on, more and more people have posted in this thread (and in another one on Lenovo's website) that they want to do the same thing. It baffled me that a simple upgrade could be so complicated. Thanks again to Theog for providing help along the way and a viable solution.
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  6. #76


    Posts : 34
    Wind 7 Home Premium 64 Bits/ Win 8 64 Bits


    Hi all;
    Firstly, a big thank you to THEOG...thanks alot...i will definitely try out his approach this Saturday.

    Anyway, can i ask for forumer's opinion on this approach as per below...the objective is to use the SSD as a boot drive on a Lenovo Y580.

    Steps:
    (1): Use the Lenovo One Key Recovery - recover to a 16GB thumbdrive.
    (2): Take out the HDD from the laptop and replace the HDD with the SSD.
    (3): Load the retail copy of the WIndows 8 64 bit CD. The OEM license key is coded into the BIOS. (SOmeone on the Lenovo forum states for Y580 (which has WIndows 8 pre-installed), the USB drive cannot recover to a blank SSD / HDD. Hence, i will loading the Windows 8 64 Bit first into the SSD.)
    (4): After loading Windows 8, stick in the USD thumbdrive and recover to the SSD.

    Will the above work???? Also, will WIndows be smart enough to create a partition in the SSD to hold all the drivers????



    If worst come to worst, then, i will be using THEOG's method. Any feedback are welcome.
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  7. #77


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Epoch
    Yeah, perhaps I should edit my first post and place a walkthrough of what worked for me? I started this thread because I was getting fed up with the problem and I just couldn't believe that no one on the internet had solved the problem yet. As time went on, more and more people have posted in this thread (and in another one on Lenovo's website) that they want to do the same thing. It baffled me that a simple upgrade could be so complicated. Thanks again to Theog for providing help along the way and a viable solution.
    Hi Epoch

    This is a more detailed post.
    How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.
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  8. #78


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by cheesum
    Steps:
    (1): Use the Lenovo One Key Recovery - recover to a 16GB thumbdrive.
    (2): Take out the HDD from the laptop and replace the HDD with the SSD.

    (4): After loading Windows 8, stick in the USD thumbdrive and recover to the SSD.
    You would need to test.

    Also, will WIndows be smart enough to create a partition in the SSD to hold all the drivers????
    You need to download the drivers or copy the drivers from the HDD.

    (3): Load the retail copy of the WIndows 8 64 bit CD. The OEM license key is coded into the BIOS. (SOmeone on the Lenovo forum states for Y580 (which has WIndows 8 pre-installed), the USB drive cannot recover to a blank SSD / HDD. Hence, i will loading the Windows 8 64 Bit first into the SSD.)
    YES.

    How to install with a uEFI/ BIOS firmware:
    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with
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  9. #79


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8 64-bit


    Hooray for Paragon! For me it solved the exact same problem Epoch was having. I was able to use Paragon to clone my factory-installed HDD onto a SSD that I bought, and then swapped the HDD out for the SSD, and bingo. Windows 8 is running perfectly off of the SSD, which is now my primary and only internal disk. Thanks to all of you for your very helpful posts, and thanks especially to THEOG and Epoch for giving me hope.
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  10. #80


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by jgregori37 View Post
    Hooray for Paragon! For me it solved the exact same problem Epoch was having. I was able to use Paragon to clone my factory-installed HDD onto a SSD that I bought, and then swapped the HDD out for the SSD, and bingo. Windows 8 is running perfectly off of the SSD, which is now my primary and only internal disk. Thanks to all of you for your very helpful posts, and thanks especially to THEOG and Epoch for giving me hope.
    Welcome to EightForums.

    You are welcome, well done.
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