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Moving pre-installed Windows 8 from HDD to SSD

  1. #11


    Posts : 25
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by compnovo View Post
    I read through the thread a couple of times to make sure I was on the right track, so I hope I'm answering the OP's original question:

    I have used the EASEUS TODO backup software several times on different computers with great success, and they still offer a free version...
    Easeus Todo Backup Free - CNET Download.com
    Install on the HDD in your Lenovo with the (formatted) SSD in the external enclosure then select the full disk clone (rather than partition), it will copy all of the original HDD's partitions (including recovery) to the SSD. When it's completed swap the drives and you should be good to go.
    I've had a couple of situations in the past where I had to boot to the repair disc to fix the boot sector on the SSD but those were rare occasions.
    So this sounds promising, since 2 people have said they have success with it. Two questions now.

    1) How do I format the SSD? Related question: My computer has been unable to "see" the SSD when put in the enclosure and connected via USB, or when connected via the USB to SATA cable that came with the SSD. It should show up under "Computer" like a normal USB connected external drive right? How is it not formatted and thus does not behave like that?

    2) When I ran EaseUS ToDo and clicked on "Disk clone" under the "Clone" option, it brings me to a list of possible disks to clone. There is only one, obviously, however I can't possibly get the "Next" button to light up. I have clicked everywhere on the menu to try to do it but it won't work. When I go to "partition clone" I can see a bunch of partitions, and the Next button is accessible.

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  2. #12


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    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Epoch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by compnovo View Post
    I read through the thread a couple of times to make sure I was on the right track, so I hope I'm answering the OP's original question:

    I have used the EASEUS TODO backup software several times on different computers with great success, and they still offer a free version...
    Easeus Todo Backup Free - CNET Download.com
    Install on the HDD in your Lenovo with the (formatted) SSD in the external enclosure then select the full disk clone (rather than partition), it will copy all of the original HDD's partitions (including recovery) to the SSD. When it's completed swap the drives and you should be good to go.
    I've had a couple of situations in the past where I had to boot to the repair disc to fix the boot sector on the SSD but those were rare occasions.
    So this sounds promising, since 2 people have said they have success with it. Two questions now.

    1) How do I format the SSD? Related question: My computer has been unable to "see" the SSD when put in the enclosure and connected via USB, or when connected via the USB to SATA cable that came with the SSD. It should show up under "Computer" like a normal USB connected external drive right? How is it not formatted and thus does not behave like that?

    2) When I ran EaseUS ToDo and clicked on "Disk clone" under the "Clone" option, it brings me to a list of possible disks to clone. There is only one, obviously, however I can't possibly get the "Next" button to light up. I have clicked everywhere on the menu to try to do it but it won't work. When I go to "partition clone" I can see a bunch of partitions, and the Next button is accessible.
    Win key + E will bring up Windows Explorer. Right-click Computer in the left pane and select Manage. Left-click Disk Management. You will see your SSD listed as one of the disks. Right-click inside the disk and select Format, then follow the prompts. When finished exit to the desktop and re-launch EASEUS TODO.

    Once this is complete EASEUS TODO will be able to detect the SSD and the Next button will be enabled. It isn't now because it can't detect a drive to clone to (the reason for the formatting).

    Hope this helps. And Merry Christmas.
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  3. #13


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    xp32 home /xp32 pro /vista64 /win7 64 /win8 64


    right click on my computer icon on desktop and select manage then select disk management look for your drive in there
    you might need to create volume or similar for your laptop to see it

    thanks brad


    oops to slow
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  4. #14


    Pacific NW
    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by chinga69 View Post
    right click on my computer icon on desktop and select manage then select disk management look for your drive in there
    you might need to create volume or similar for your laptop to see it

    thanks brad


    oops to slow
    Yeah but I forgot to mention creating a volume so maybe I was too quick.
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  5. #15


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    xp32 home /xp32 pro /vista64 /win7 64 /win8 64


    lol as long as his problem is fixed and he can stop pulling out his hair
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  6. #16


    Pacific NW
    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    have used the EASEUS TODO backup
    Ditto, has been (and is) very good. Remember to tick 'Optimize for SSD' to get the alignment right.
    To check SSD alignment and performance > Download AS SSD benchmark 1.6.4237 - FileHippo.com
    Does AS SSD check for alignment now? I haven't used EASE TODO since v.4 and don't recall it having the "Optimize for SSD" option, that's a really nice feature. I've always had to align after I was done because cloning messes with alignment. I'm not even sure I would notice anyway but I'm kind of OCD about getting things right.

    To the OP, here's how to check for alignment after you've got your SSD cloned and installed:

    "To see if your partitions are aligned correctly, hit the Start menu and type in msinfo32. Enter Msinfo32 and go to Components > Storage > Disks. Look for your SSD on the list and find the "Partition Starting Offset" item. If this number is divisible by 4096 (that is, if dividing it by 4096 equals a whole number and not a decimal), your partition is correctly aligned."

    (I found these instructions online a while ago and don't know who to give credit to)
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  7. #17


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by compnovo View Post
    I read through the thread a couple of times to make sure I was on the right track, so I hope I'm answering the OP's original question:

    I have used the EASEUS TODO backup software several times on different computers with great success, and they still offer a free version...
    Easeus Todo Backup Free - CNET Download.com
    Install on the HDD in your Lenovo with the (formatted) SSD in the external enclosure then select the full disk clone (rather than partition), it will copy all of the original HDD's partitions (including recovery) to the SSD. When it's completed swap the drives and you should be good to go.
    I've had a couple of situations in the past where I had to boot to the repair disc to fix the boot sector on the SSD but those were rare occasions.
    Easeus has no support for Windows 8 uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot, the OP has.


    The only 3rd party software that I know of, that fully supports Windows 8 is PARAGON.


    Paragon 12 now supports Windows 8 uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot.

    PARAGON Software Group - partition manager, drive backup, hard disk partitioning
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  8. #18


    Posts : 25
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by compnovo View Post

    Win key + E will bring up Windows Explorer. Right-click Computer in the left pane and select Manage. Left-click Disk Management. You will see your SSD listed as one of the disks. Right-click inside the disk and select Format, then follow the prompts. When finished exit to the desktop and re-launch EASEUS TODO.

    Once this is complete EASEUS TODO will be able to detect the SSD and the Next button will be enabled. It isn't now because it can't detect a drive to clone to (the reason for the formatting).

    Hope this helps. And Merry Christmas.
    OKAY! This was extremely helpful and right now I am at choosing of "layout after clone." Right now I have many tiny partitions that I am not changing the size of, but the main three partitions are 1) Main drive space for Storage/Windows 8. 2) A 20 GB "Lenovo" partition, that only has 2 GB full. 3) The secret recovery partition, with ~20 GB of 20 GB full.
    '
    My question is this: because I am cloning the hard drive, I should still have the recovery partition on the hard drive, which means I can get rid of the recovery partition on the SSD, correct? My concern is maximizing the space for storage on my 256GB (I won't need that much, but if I can get rid of ~35 GB of partitions then I want to). I talked to my dad (a computer engineer) and he brought up the possibility of what happens when Windows 8 looks for the partition and can't find it. Can I remove the recovery partition after I install Windows 8? Also can I decrease the size of the Lenovo partition? It's only folder is "drivers".

    Note: I appreciate ALL THE HELP I have got so far. THANK YOU! Once I get things worked out I will give a longer thank you post.
    Note 2: I am just gonna go ahead and clone with the two extra partitions in there, because now I know how to do it so it would be easy enough to do it again.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 25
    Windows 8


    Progress update (not good news):

    I used the EaseUS ToDo to "Clone Disk" to my SSD. Everything went well. I didn't touch the recovery partition, but I did decrease the Lenovo partition to 10 GB so that the primary partition would be larger. It took around 50 minutes to clone. After the successful clone, I checked the "Computer" and found my ":S" drive (S is for SSD. ) and the new Lenovo drive. I decided to try to boot from the SSD before I went ahead and did the swap into my laptop. Good thing I did...

    I went into the "Advanced Startup" menu, and then went into the "Advanced options" and clicked on the UEFI Firmware Settings so that I could boot directly from SSD. I did that, but that SSD shows up as "USB HDD: Mass Storage Device." It started to restart but it showed a quick fail screen a few times. It then got into the Language/Keyboard start-up, and when it came to the options to start it had ONLY "Turn off PC" and "Advanced options." So I clicked on "Advanced options," and went into try to reinstall on the SSD via the Recovery partition, which I left on the SSD. I clicked through and it then told me that it couldn't complete it because I was missing a partition.

    Then I went to UEFI again and booted from my hard drive. I then tried to do it again, to go through the steps so that I could give a better description while typing this up. However, THIS TIME when I hit Enter on the "USB HDD: Mass Storage Device." it takes me to a blue screen that says the following:

    "Recovery. Your PC needs to be repaired. The Boot Configuration Data for your PC is missing or contains errors. File \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD. Error code: 0x000000f. You'll need to use the recovery tools on your installation media. If you don't have any installation media (like a disc or USB device), contact your system administrator of PC manufacturer

    Press Esc for UEFI Firmware settings."

    My goodness. And I thought I was sooooo close...

    Should I just try to swap the hard drive out and see if it works as the main drive? I don't know why it would work like that and not through the enclosure.

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  10. #20


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Page 27.

    When the hard disk drive or solid state drive is replaced because of a failure, no
    product recovery program is on the new drive. In this case, you must use the
    Recovery Disc Set for the computer. Order the Recovery Disc Set and the drive at
    the same time so that you can recover the new drive with the pre-installed
    software when they arrive.
    The Recovery Disc Set consists of the following set of DVDs to restore the
    computer to the original factory configuration.

    Start Recovery Disc (one disc)

    This disc is used to format the hard disk drive and initiate the recovery process.
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Instead of creating DVDs, I made the equivalent, which was a USB flash drive.
    Did you make the Recovery disks, DVD or USB?
    Why not do it the EASY WAY.
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