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Boot Screen Quandry?

  1. #1


    Posts : 131
    Win7-8 Dual Boot on a Commodore 64

    Boot Screen Quandry?


    Step One: Imaged Windows 7 from HD1
    Step Two: Restore Windows 7 to HD2
    Step Three: Overtime,install Dev/Consumers/Preview/Enterprise Eval to
    a 117 gig partition on HD1
    Step Four: Downgrade Enterprise Eval to Windows 8 Pro.
    Step Five: Post tutorial on how to downgrade on Answers Microsoft.
    Step Six: Notice that post is deleted within hours.
    Step Seven: Decide to get legit.
    Step Eight: Delete Windows 8 partition from HD1 and then format as NTFS file system.
    Step Nine: Install and validate XP-Pro while hoping Blaster doesn't rear it's ugly head.
    Step Ten: Insert Windows 8 Pro DVD and begin to install. Custom/Format/Setup.
    Step Eleven: Look quizzically at Blue Boot Screen and notice entry. [Earlier Version of Windows]
    Step Twelve: Click on Earlier Version and am greeted with the black [old style] boot screen.
    Step Thirteen: Look quizzically at the black screen with only Windows 8 Pro listed as an OS.

    Question. How do I "insert?" Windows 7 as the [Earlier Version] in the blue boot screen?

    Side note: Sync across devices might actually work!

    On my new custom clean install,I added the wife as a User, who unlike me, signs on with a Microsoft Account.

    I was astonished to find that her DesktopTheme had been automatically downloaded,
    Flickr immediately began to scroll pictures, her Skydrive was synced and most
    astonishing of all her Google homepage and Favorites and Favorites Bar was intact.

    Immersive Mail, I could see/understand, but the rest??? WOW
    All this upon first logon, nice feature!

    I still miss Windows DVD Maker/Aero/Windows Switcher 3D, but ehhh???

    pps: Composed and sent from Windows 7 [Partitons lettered accordingly]

    Click image for larger version
    Last edited by Windunce; 10 Dec 2012 at 05:03.

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  2. #2


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    You can add a OS to the boot menu with EsayBCD.
    EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies


    But as you have Logical Drives.

    We have had a few OP with Install & Boot problems with Logical Drives.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 131
    Win7-8 Dual Boot on a Commodore 64


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    You can add an OS to the boot menu with EasyBCD.
    EasyBCD - NeoSmart Technologies


    But as you have Logical Drives.

    We have had a few OP with Install & Boot problems with Logical Drives.
    Thanks for the reply!

    Ok, I will re-image Win7 from the Logical Drive and restore it to the newly created
    Win7-Primary partition.

    Click image for larger version


    But it may not boot, because the current boot manager for the Win7, once booted, says this...
    Click image for larger version

    Transferring/restoring will copy the EXACT parameters to the 'new' partition.
    Will that matter?
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  4. #4


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    You may find , that you will need to remove all Logical Drives.

    Not had the problem myself, as I do not use Logical drives.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 131
    Win7-8 Dual Boot on a Commodore 64

    Case is "Escalated" or so I was told....


    Eh, I said what the heck, let's burn up the phone lines.
    So I am now waiting for a Level II support specialist to call me back.

    It SEEMS like a no brainer, but a lot has changed since Vista changed from boot.ini to boot manager.
    So I'll let MS brick my machine with Remote ASSistance.

    Upgraded from an old XP Image and even after a clean/format partition it STILL inserted the Legacy {ntldr}.

    When I get him on the line I'll ask if he can insert an "Earlier Version of Windows" that actually WORKS, Win7.

    Here's the 8&7 pastes from bcdedit.exe

    ===========================
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
    (c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume6
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    integrityservices Enable
    default {current}
    resumeobject {7eced793-3e80-11e2-8e90-c8a16409d2fd}
    displayorder {ntldr}
    {current}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 30
    Windows Legacy OS Loader
    ------------------------
    identifier {ntldr}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume6
    path \ntldr
    description Earlier Version of Windows
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 8
    locale en-US
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence {7eced795-3e80-11e2-8e90-c8a16409d2fd}
    integrityservices Enable
    recoveryenabled Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {7eced793-3e80-11e2-8e90-c8a16409d2fd}
    nx OptIn
    bootmenupolicy Standard

    ======================================================

    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=J:
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {6249f84c-5067-11e1-8156-8ad6e39de6ce}
    displayorder {current}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 30
    displaybootmenu No
    custom:26000025 Yes
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 7
    locale en-US
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence {de51fd46-0913-11e2-bb3e-eedb684e7885}
    recoveryenabled Yes
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {de51fd44-0913-11e2-bb3e-eedb684e7885}
    nx OptIn



    So I'd hope he can DELETE the Windows Legacy OS Loader and then ADD the
    Windows 7 Boot loader.

    I'll keep ya posted :)


    ============= From TechNet========Ages ago

    How to delete a boot entry
    At an elevated command prompt, type:
    bcdedit /delete ID [/f]

    Option Explanation
    ID Specifies the GUID of the boot entry you want to delete. If ID is not specified, the current boot entry ID will be deleted.
    If you specify a well-known GUID, you will have to force the deletion by specifying /f. For example:
    bcdedit /delete {default} /f
    For example, the following command deletes the entry with id {802d5e32-0784-11da-bd33-000476eba25f}.
    bcdedit /delete {802d5e32-0784-11da-bd33-000476eba25f}


    more info here:
    Adding Boot Entries (Windows Drivers)
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