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Questions about upgrading to Windows 8

  1. #1


    Posts : 8
    Windows 7

    Questions about upgrading to Windows 8


    Hi all, this is my first post here.

    I have a 7 months old Windows 7 laptop and I'm seriously considering upgrading to Windows 8. I know people are very conservative and many are hating just because it's different but I like the modern UI and I have a Windows Phone as well as an Xbox360 so I'm used to it.

    1) The things is I've heard something about problems and bugs after upgrading instead of doing a clean install? Of couse I want to keep my files and my software (MS Office 2010 in particular, that costs money you know) which is why I definitely would prefer upgrading, but I don't want an OS the doesn't work as well as it could.

    2) When you do upgrade, what will happen to Windows 7? Will it be removed or will I have unnecessary system files here and there taking up my HDD space? I don't really want to waste space on my hard drive.

    3) Windows 7 came with my laptop, is it possible to go back to Windows 7 should I suddenly have the desire to do so? I don't have a physical copy of Windows 7. What if Idid a system backup of Windows 7, then I would be able to go back and forth?

    4) Does Windows 8 come with a single license so you can do ONE install only or can you install it as often as you like on the same machine?

    5) Will I have to update my hardware drivers myself or will the OS help me doing that? I have updated my GPU driver before but never my CPU, motherboard and what else you need. Anything I should be aware of?

    Anything I should be aware of in general?
    Thanks

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  2. #2


    Posts : 22,564
    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello Marute, and welcome to Eight Forums.

    Answers inline.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marute View Post
    1) The things is I've heard something about problems and bugs after upgrading instead of doing a clean install? Of couse I want to keep my files and my software (MS Office 2010 in particular, that costs money you know) which is why I definitely would prefer upgrading, but I don't want an OS the doesn't work as well as it could.

    It's true that a clean install is best. An upgrade install has worked just fine for many, and has also not worked so well with others. This is most likely due to incompatibility issues from something in the previous OS, or the AV program may have interfered with installation.

    I would recommend to do the tutorial below to run the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant, but stop after step 6. This will help you see if you may have any compatibility issues before trying to upgrade to Windows 8.

    Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant - Download and Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Marute View Post
    2) When you do upgrade, what will happen to Windows 7? Will it be removed or will I have unnecessary system files here and there taking up my HDD space? I don't really want to waste space on my hard drive.

    All compatible programs and drivers will be kept in Windows 8, but Windows 7 will be placed into the C:\Windows.old folder. Once you make sure that there's nothing in it you want, you can delete it to regain the HDD space it's using.

    Windows.old Folder - Delete in Windows 8

    The tutorial below can give you more details about upgrading to Windows 8 if you like.

    https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html


    Quote Originally Posted by Marute View Post
    3) Windows 7 came with my laptop, is it possible to go back to Windows 7 should I suddenly have the desire to do so? I don't have a physical copy of Windows 7. What if Idid a system backup of Windows 7, then I would be able to go back and forth?
    You should create a set of factory recovery discs for your laptop before upgrading to Windows 8. These will be your backup to be able to reinstall Windows 7 back to factory conditions if the recovery partition should fail to be able to.

    Please post back with what brand and model your laptop is, and I'll be happy to find the instructions for how to create a set of factory recovery discs on it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marute View Post
    4) Does Windows 8 come with a single license so you can do ONE install only or can you install it as often as you like on the same machine?
    Windows 8 comes with only on product key (license) that can only be activated on ONE computer at the same time. If you want to activate another computer with it, then it must be uninstalled from any other computer first.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marute View Post
    5) Will I have to update my hardware drivers myself or will the OS help me doing that? I have updated my GPU driver before but never my CPU, motherboard and what else you need. Anything I should be aware of?

    Anything I should be aware of in general?

    Windows 8 will usually either have generic drivers that may work, or can sometimes download drivers though Windows Update. There's no guarantee that drivers will be found for all devices though.

    It would be best to go to your laptop manufacturer's driver download site to see what is available for Windows 8, and already have the driver installation files downloaded and handy to install after Windows 8 is finished installing in case you may need them. Especially if you may need to install the network driver before having access to the internet.


    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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  3. #3


    Posts : 8
    Windows 7


    It's true that a clean install is best. An upgrade install has worked just fine for many, and has also not worked so well with others. This is most likely due to incompatibility issues from something in the previous OS, or the AV program may have interfered with installation.

    I would recommend to do the tutorial below to run the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant, but stop after step 6. This will help you see if you may have any compatibility issues before trying to upgrade to Windows 8.

    https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...nload-run.html
    Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant tells me that i have 5 compatibility issues: 1) Install app in order to play DVD's. 2) Secure start isn't compatible with my firmware. 3) Fraps apparently needs an update. 4) For some reason iTunes want me to remove approved pc's whatever that means? 5) Windows Live Essentials needs an update as well.

    I would remove my AV (Avast free) prior to upgrading anyway. What do you think about it? What I fear most is having the OS perform slower than it normally would because it was an upgrade and not a clean install. I don't know if that's even a possible issue with upgrading to W8.

    All compatible programs and drivers will be kept in Windows 8, but Windows 7 will be placed into the C:\Windows.old folder. Once you make sure that there's nothing in it you want, you can delete it to regain the HDD space it's using.

    https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

    The tutorial below can give you more details about upgrading to Windows 8 if you like.

    https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
    Okay, so basically I'll have access to my old system until I decide there's nothing more I need from it? I do have backups of all my personal files.

    You should create a set of factory recovery discs for your laptop before upgrading to Windows 8. These will be your backup to be able to reinstall Windows 7 back to factory conditions if the recovery partition should fail to be able to.

    Please post back with what brand and model your laptop is, and I'll be happy to find the instructions for how to create a set of factory recovery discs on it.
    So by creating a set of factory recovery discs like you say I will actually have an install disc just as if I had had a physical copy of Windows 7 that I can use anytime I want to completely reinstall Windows 7 anywhere anytime I want? Will it install the OS in the state my PC is in now or as it was the first time I booted the pc?

    That's very kind of you. My laptop is a Packard Bell EasyNote TS11HR. It does have "Parckard Bell Recovery Management" software installed. It allows me to "Create Factory Standard disc". It says it will allow me to "Burn a copy of the factory default system so that you can recreate the PC's default settings if needed". Is that what I need to do?

    Windows 8 comes with only on product key (license) that can only be activated on ONE computer at the same time. If you want to activate another computer with it, then it must be uninstalled from any other computer first.
    But I will in fact be able to uninstall Windows 8 and install it again either on another machine or on the same machine as much as I would like? (Not like I'm going to shift OS every day, but I like the option).

    Windows 8 will usually either have generic drivers that may work, or can sometimes download drivers though Windows Update. There's no guarantee that drivers will be found for all devices though.

    It would be best to go to your laptop manufacturer's driver download site to see what is available for Windows 8, and already have the driver installation files downloaded and handy to install after Windows 8 is finished installing in case you may need them. Especially if you may need to install the network driver before having access to the internet.
    I've always been told that it's best to download the latest drivers from the actual hardware manufacturer? However, I will have to prepare this before updating the OS? What drivers beside the GPU and CPU are we talking about? I also have Packard Bell Updater on the pc. It will perhaps update the drivers?

    Thank you for the help it is very much appreciated. I know I ask a lot of questions but I figure you'll only learn as long as you ask. Thank you for the tutorial links as well!
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  4. #4


    Posts : 22,564
    64-bit Windows 10


    Quote Originally Posted by Marute View Post
    Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant tells me that i have 5 compatibility issues: 1) Install app in order to play DVD's. 2) Secure start isn't compatible with my firmware. 3) Fraps apparently needs an update. 4) For some reason iTunes want me to remove approved pc's whatever that means? 5) Windows Live Essentials needs an update as well.

    I would remove my AV (Avast free) prior to upgrading anyway. What do you think about it? What I fear most is having the OS perform slower than it normally would because it was an upgrade and not a clean install. I don't know if that's even a possible issue with upgrading to W8.
    If you take care of all these issues, you should be good to go.


    Okay, so basically I'll have access to my old system until I decide there's nothing more I need from it? I do have backups of all my personal files.
    To the files in the windows.old folder only. You will not be able to boot into Windows 7 from the windows.old folder.


    So by creating a set of factory recovery discs like you say I will actually have an install disc just as if I had had a physical copy of Windows 7 that I can use anytime I want to completely reinstall Windows 7 anywhere anytime I want? Will it install the OS in the state my PC is in now or as it was the first time I booted the pc?

    That's very kind of you. My laptop is a Packard Bell EasyNote TS11HR. It does have "Parckard Bell Recovery Management" software installed. It allows me to "Create Factory Standard disc". It says it will allow me to "Burn a copy of the factory default system so that you can recreate the PC's default settings if needed". Is that what I need to do?
    No. This will only allow you to reinstall Windows 7 on only this specific laptop, and on no other computer.

    Yes, "Burn a copy of the factory default system so that you can recreate the PC's default settings if needed" is what you need to use in "Packard Bell Recovery Management" for this.


    But I will in fact be able to uninstall Windows 8 and install it again either on another machine or on the same machine as much as I would like? (Not like I'm going to shift OS every day, but I like the option).
    Yes, you will be able install Windows 8 on any computer you like so long as it's not installed on any other computer as well.


    I've always been told that it's best to download the latest drivers from the actual hardware manufacturer? However, I will have to prepare this before updating the OS? What drivers beside the GPU and CPU are we talking about? I also have Packard Bell Updater on the pc. It will perhaps update the drivers?

    Thank you for the help it is very much appreciated. I know I ask a lot of questions but I figure you'll only learn as long as you ask. Thank you for the tutorial links as well!

    Usually it's best to get the drivers from the device manufacturer, but for a laptop, it would be best to get them from the laptop manufacturer instead since laptops usually require specific driver versions for that specific laptop model that may not be the same from the device manufacturer.

    You can get drivers for your Packard Bell EasyNote TS11HR at the link below. Be sure to select the correct 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8 that you are installing.

    Support Download

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    Last edited by Brink; 08 Dec 2012 at 17:39.
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  5. #5


    I'd say you were going to be very pleased with your laptops performance once you have upgraded. Clean install is best. Then make a backup! Follow what Brink has said and you won't go wrong!
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  6. #6


    Posts : 8
    Windows 7


    Great to her. Thank you for the replies it was very helpful!
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  7. #7


    Posts : 22,564
    64-bit Windows 10


    You're most welcome Marute. Glad we could help.
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