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How to get pre-installed windows 8 on new hard drive

  1. #11


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    Welp, it worked, thanks a lot guys. I think this will be the approach I'll take. I'm going to see if I can identify the needed partitions now so that I don't end up with extra partitions. How can I know which partitions are needed? Particularly there is a "lenovo" partition that is taking up 25 GB. I would prefer to not clone this one when i get the SSD to save some room. Is it needed?

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  2. #12


    I would imagine the 25GB partition is the restore partition I mentioned earlier. You will definitely need c:\ and the 350MB "system reserved" partition. The others should be data partitions but you can check that before imaging.

    I'd resize c:\ before creating it's image to make it fit.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by mctonale View Post
    I would imagine the 25GB partition is the restore partition I mentioned earlier. You will definitely need c:\ and the 350MB "system reserved" partition. The others should be data partitions but you can check that before imaging.

    I'd resize c:\ before creating it's image to make it fit.
    The three System Reserved partitions with uEFI BIOS & gpt HD Drive mode are

    Recovery = 300mb.
    System = 100mb.
    MSR (Recovery) = 128mb.

    There is NO System Resevred = 350mb.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mctonale View Post
    I would imagine the 25GB partition is the restore partition I mentioned earlier. You will definitely need c:\ and the 350MB "system reserved" partition. The others should be data partitions but you can check that before imaging.

    I'd resize c:\ before creating it's image to make it fit.
    The three System Reserved partitions with uEFI BIOS & gpt HD Drive mode are

    Recovery = 300mb.
    System = 100mb.
    MSR (Recovery) = 128mb.

    There is NO System Resevred = 350mb.
    Really? I must upgrade soon lol am waiting till Haswell though
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  5. #15


    Dutchess County, NY
    Posts : 17
    Window 8 Pro with Media Center


    Not sure if I should start a new thread; here goes anyway.

    • Asus K55A new laptop with 750GB HDD came with Windows 8. I upgraded it to Windows 8 Pro with Media Center.
    • Bought a new Seagate 750GB 7200rpm SSD+HDD Hybrid with the intent of cloning...scrapped that idea.
    • Swapped Hard Drives and properly installed Windows 8 from another copy with Secure Boot True (confirmed in Powershell).
    • Upgraded that to Windows 8 Pro with Media Center.


    What I am curious about doing:

    • The original Hard Drive is unchanged and encased in a portable USB 3.0 enclosure.

    I'd like to (after doing a full system backup) try & Restore my system from the original hard drive Recovery Partition in the USB enclose to my new Hybrid Hard Drive thereby wiping out my newest installation and returning to the original with this fast Hybrid drive.

    Following the protocol for doing this, I am most curious if I would have the status of my computer back to factory pre-installed with this new hard drive

    First HARD DRIVE PARTITIONS are the newest Hybrid. Second is factory. I attempted to use Mini Tool Partition Wizard to copy the Recovery Partition to the new hard drive but upon reboot, it failed because it stated the disc had changed. Haven't researched that yet.
    Click image for larger version


    Thanks for any input - new here!

    JERE
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  6. #16


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Hello jerendeb and welcome to EightForums!

    For asus k55a you should have a look here:
    ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Troubleshooting K55A

    Try to boot with the drive connected to usb3.0 ans see if F9 sees the recovery partition on disk: that's the required one.

    If this doesn't work, try to copy the recovery partition (image) from the initilal disk on usb to the new disk and then reboot only with the new disk... it should detect it if we are allowed to copy it entirely. To copy partitions there are many options available, for instance, I use Easeus Partition Master because it's easy to use.

    Good luck

    Hopachi
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  7. #17


    Dutchess County, NY
    Posts : 17
    Window 8 Pro with Media Center


    Okay, here's what I have tried:
    I successfully copied the Recovery Partition from my original hard drive to my new installed hard drive.
    I then tried Reset My PC with nothing connected externally & it booted into the RESET MODE.
    The process % counter went on for about 2 1/2 hours up to 60% & then a light blue screen came on telling me the process had run into a problem. The only option if I recall correctly was to Cancel or Continue or Restart, can't remember but when I clicked it my PC booted up normally with no changes.
    SO that didn't work.

    I have not tried attaching the USB original Hard Drive to a 3.0 USB Port and rebooting with the F9. I will attempt that today.

    Interesting too, is that when I look at my C:\ on the new hard drive in Computer that's all there is, a C:\. In Disk Management it shows the Recovery Partition.

    In my original hard drive, when I looked at my Computer it showed C:\OS D:\Date E:\Recovery. So something else is different there too.

    You know this isn't really that important to me but as an IT person it's now a quest to see if I can RESET this PC to factory with a new Hard Drive.
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  8. #18


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    If you encounter that problem again, try and choose something else. It's good news to see that the copy worked into booting, now you'll have to see what you can do next (I didn't performed something like this here yet and I'm also curious; I just knew from theory that a perfect partition copy should work).

    Try to note the message down and then maybe some of us or ASUS can provide extra info on that.

    I just hope they didn't add some kind of copy-protection to the original partition (which is also possible) but if you manage to boot it from the original (usb-connected) then you'll see if the problem occurs again or not.

    Interesting too, is that when I look at my C:\ on the new hard drive in Computer that's all there is, a C:\. In Disk Management it shows the Recovery Partition.

    In my original hard drive, when I looked at my Computer it showed C:\OS D:\Date E:\Recovery. So something else is different there too.
    Only one partition on new disk??
    The copy of the recovery partition should be the same size as original one (I guess something a bit less and up to 20GB in size) and the rest of the space needs to be auto-reformatted by the installer or manually formatted with a partitioning program.

    Either way, UEFI systems (check the BIOS options utility) require a GPT formatted disk (not a classical MBR one). So this depends if UEFI is turned on or not... but if it came pre-installed with Win8 it's definitely UEFI-enabled more importantly is whether the program you used to copy had GPT functionality available. GPT disk (check original one first) -> then copy partition and create empty ones matching the ones on original disk; this is just to mimic as close as possible the original setup for the recovery program (depends on the error you received early and it can be the case the extra partitions are not required at all: all you need is the recovery partition, basically). Probably you've already had GPT disk with the new (you mentioned PRO) install you had there and that's no problem then, so just try it again, from original disk as well and see if that error still occurs or not.

    Good luck again.

    Hopachi
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  9. #19


    Dutchess County, NY
    Posts : 17
    Window 8 Pro with Media Center

    Re-image


    Next attempt semi-failed. I choose to use the Recovey DVD I had made to attempt an Advance Startup. Well when I chose to RESET is asked for a copy of Windows 8. No option to pick a Recovery Source. So I stuck a USB Flash drive in with another Windows 8 I have and that worked. BUT...when the PC restarted it asked for the KEY to activate and since that's in the BIOS, I knew this wouldn't work. So I skipped the Activation for now. Final boot reviewed a fresh inactivated Windows 8.

    Next trial. I am using Partition Wizard the latest free version. I am now attempting a Copy Disk process. I am copying my original hard drive onto my new hard drive, thereby wiping it out and placing in all partitions. When if that's complete, I am going to see how that turned out. I know there are couple possibilities, some good, some bad. Either way it will be interesting.

    If it works I'll have to decide if I want to try to reset that with the Factory Recovery Partition in place, maybe then it'll all come together with a factory PC. If that fails, I give up. I'll then resort back to leaving this new disk running the old disc format. At least I'll have SSD+HDD 7200rpms.

    Stay tuned for the next development...currently Saturday March 23rd at 13:25 hours eastern savings time.

    Now 15:02. My old hard drive Windows 8 Pro with Media Center is still intact in a USB 3.0 enclosure. I can boot from that too. If I do, and make a SYSTEM IMAGE, might it be possible to reboot into my SYSTEM REPAIR DVD and use that IMAGE to restore to my NEW HARD DRIVE in the computer?
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  10. #20


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jerendeb View Post
    Now 15:02. My old hard drive Windows 8 Pro with Media Center is still intact in a USB 3.0 enclosure. I can boot from that too. If I do, and make a SYSTEM IMAGE, might it be possible to reboot into my SYSTEM REPAIR DVD and use that IMAGE to restore to my NEW HARD DRIVE in the computer?
    Yes. I always do that image with the built in option in control panel called something like 'Win7 recovery'

    One of this images should be made for the factory OS as well, and that would ease the restores too.

    Just keep the factory restore partition intact, you cannot restore that if damaged they say but you can make a backup I see. You can also backup the factory restore partition on one or more DVD's with some utility ASUS provided on the pre-installed system (I have HP and they allow this, to confirm).
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