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Dual Boot - No timeout in Legacy Bootloader?

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    Dual Boot - No timeout in Legacy Bootloader?


    I have Windows 7 and Windows 8 Dual booted on my machine. I want to have win 7 as the default so the the legacy bootloader is needed to boot win 7, but what I can't understand is why the bootloader timeout has disappeared and the system waits until I make a choice. I have checked with bcdedit and the timeout is correctly set at 5 seconds, but when I boot the timeout does not appear.

    Have tried repairing with Windows 7 boot disk which gives me back the timeout but then Windows 8 can't boot if selected. Very frustrating. Has anyone else come across this?
    Last edited by Rob; 19 Nov 2012 at 12:03.

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    Thanks for your reply, I have set the timeout option here and also in msconfig - both say 5 seconds, but that still does not produce a timeout in the legacy boot loader to have windows 7 as the default
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    Hello Rob, and welcome to Eight Forums.

    That only allows you to set how long you want to have to select what OS you want to startup in Windows Boot Manager. You could use the tutorial below to set what OS you want to run automatically at startup instead.

    Startup Options - Choose a Default OS to Run at Startup in Windows 8

    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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    I think he has set the default.

    What he wants is 5 seconds to make a selection before the default kicks in.

    I haven't had that problem here.

    Curious.

    If you type bcdedit /enum all and paste up the output, we may see what is going on.
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    I selected windows 7 as the default OS in the windows 8 bootloader so now it loads the legacy bootloader at start up and not the windows 8 bootloader. The legacy bootloader contains 2 options, windows 7 and windows 8, both of which will boot when selected but for some reason there is no timeout shown in the legacy bootloader so it just halts and waits for a selection to be made. I would really prefer it to load the default OS after a short timeout rather than just stopping and waiting for a selection to be made. The BCD says the timeout is set for 5s as does msconfig and system properties in both OS's but still it does not appear in the legacy bootloader screen at start up.
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    Rob,

    Boot into Windows 7, and see if changing the time there will have it available afterwards.

    Operating System to Start - Change Display List Time - Windows 7 Forums
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    Here's the BCD settings, if that helps:

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
    (c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    C:\windows\system32>bcdedit /enum
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-us
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {default}
    resumeobject {bc95f36e-31ce-11e2-a3d6-db9fc406af91}
    displayorder {default}
    {current}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 5
    displaybootmenu Yes
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {default}
    device partition=D:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 7
    locale en-US
    osdevice partition=D:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {7ea3d388-31cb-11e2-bac7-806e6f6e6963}
    bootmenupolicy Legacy
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 8
    locale en-us
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \windows
    resumeobject {bc95f36e-31ce-11e2-a3d6-db9fc406af91}
    nx OptIn
    bootmenupolicy Legacy
    detecthal Yes
    C:\windows\system32>
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    The problem is with the Windows 8 bootmgr.

    When the windows 8 bootmgr is installed, there's no timeout shown on the legacy bootscreen, when the windows 7 bootmgr is installed the timeout function appears. The BCD is the same in both cases - timeout 5.

    Does anyone else have a windows 7/windows 8 dual boot machine with windows 7 set as the default and the timeout function still working?
    Last edited by Rob; 20 Nov 2012 at 11:29.
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    Rob,

    Could you post screenshots of the timeout settings from within both Windows 7 and Windows 8 to see if anything may show as a cause?
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