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  1. #11


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    What version DVD would use S/B OEM or Retail?

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  2. #12


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    Note that OA3 doesn't use SLIC tables anymore, although only Windows 8 uses OA3 - Windows Server 2012 can still be activated using the older OA2.x methodology. And there's no more requirement to ship a CoA sticker on the PC itself, although I do believe they still have to provide recovery media or a DVD and some proof of purchase. I haven't acquired an OEM machine with Windows 8 yet, so I'm not sure what should ship, but there's still a requirement for those at the least I believe.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    Note that OA3 doesn't use SLIC tables anymore, although only Windows 8 uses OA3 - Windows Server 2012 can still be activated using the older OA2.x methodology. And there's no more requirement to ship a CoA sticker on the PC itself, although I do believe they still have to provide recovery media or a DVD and some proof of purchase. I haven't acquired an OEM machine with Windows 8 yet, so I'm not sure what should ship, but there's still a requirement for those at the least I believe.
    I've only just started reading up on OA 3.0, mostly just out of curiosity. Although I'm sure at some point I'm going to handed a Windows 8 PC to fix that won't have any recovery media. It sounds like you have a much better handle on it than I do.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    What version DVD would use S/B OEM or Retail?

    Not sure what you're asking but. Only branded OEM install media included with a new PC purchase would use OEM-SLP activation. Or recovery disk sets ordered from the manufacturer for a specific OEM PC. Nothing that you would buy off of the shelf or online would use it. Regular Retail and OEM media activate online.
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  5. #15


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    The BIOS will have a SLIC table that is used for OEM-SLP activation. The big OEM's like Dell etc, add the custom SLIC table to their BIOS. The OEM installed OS looks for the SLIC table and if its found and matches a corresponding certificate file Activation is automatic. If it can't find the correct SLIC table activation fails. OEM-SLP does not activate online. If you create recovery media the OEM-SLP activation will be preserved for the PC its created on. You can't READ the OEM-SLP Product Code from the BIOS. Not without a utility anyway. You can use a utility like the Magical Jelly Bean Key Finder to retrieve it from the installed OS. Its not of any use though because OEM-SLP keys will not activate online. Every DELL model XYZ will have the same OEM-SLP product code and that code is blocked from online activation. That's why those PC's also have a COA sticker on them. If you have to you can install with a regular OEM DVD and use the Product code on the COA sticker. windows 7 uses OA 2.1. Windows 8 uses a new OA 3.0. With OA 3.0 each PC has a unique SLP product code that is embedded in its BIOS. One of the tricks used to pirate Windows was to add a SLIC table to a PC's BIOS so you could fake OEM-SLP activation. OA 3.0 is designed to prevent this and make it harder to pirate Windows. I'm sure there is more to it than that but the rest of it is a bit over my head. I would think there should still be a COA sticker on a Windows 8 machine though. How are you supposed to install the OS without the recovery disks? With OA 3.0 I would think the recovery media would only work on the PC it was created on. It would be unique to that PC not just to that make and model like it is now.
    OEM-SLP does not activate online...
    The Win8 laptop I bought was not activated the first day I used it. So I had to go online.
    It's not one that uses OEM-SLP then?...

    EDIT:
    Is it possible that a delay exists (a few days) for the OEM-SLP activation to take place offline?
    Not really important if you (can) get online: then it will activate automatically.

    Key is in the BIOS:
    HP Insyde BIOS doesn't show any product keys only serial of pc model and number.
    The BIOS knows the preinstalled OS is Win8 and from what I learned about laptop BIOSes is that a lot of stuff is hidden from the interface/user but the key is probably there (SLIC table).

    Correct me if I'm wrong:
    The way I see it, at least for HP laptops and Win8, is that you probably need to activate online (they just check that's you who activates) but the key is already preinstalled (BIOS slic maybe?). All works well but I still didn't made any recovery disks (I think that will work pretty well since I kept all factory partitions intact). If the recovery fails on DVD, will just try is on USB stick.
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  6. #16


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    Unfortunately . Thankfully Windows 8 media should universally detect the OEM hash, so if you've got legal reinstallation media from Microsoft, it shouldn't matter anymore.
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    The BIOS will have a SLIC table that is used for OEM-SLP activation. The big OEM's like Dell etc, add the custom SLIC table to their BIOS. The OEM installed OS looks for the SLIC table and if its found and matches a corresponding certificate file Activation is automatic. If it can't find the correct SLIC table activation fails. OEM-SLP does not activate online. If you create recovery media the OEM-SLP activation will be preserved for the PC its created on. You can't READ the OEM-SLP Product Code from the BIOS. Not without a utility anyway. You can use a utility like the Magical Jelly Bean Key Finder to retrieve it from the installed OS. Its not of any use though because OEM-SLP keys will not activate online. Every DELL model XYZ will have the same OEM-SLP product code and that code is blocked from online activation. That's why those PC's also have a COA sticker on them. If you have to you can install with a regular OEM DVD and use the Product code on the COA sticker. windows 7 uses OA 2.1. Windows 8 uses a new OA 3.0. With OA 3.0 each PC has a unique SLP product code that is embedded in its BIOS. One of the tricks used to pirate Windows was to add a SLIC table to a PC's BIOS so you could fake OEM-SLP activation. OA 3.0 is designed to prevent this and make it harder to pirate Windows. I'm sure there is more to it than that but the rest of it is a bit over my head. I would think there should still be a COA sticker on a Windows 8 machine though. How are you supposed to install the OS without the recovery disks? With OA 3.0 I would think the recovery media would only work on the PC it was created on. It would be unique to that PC not just to that make and model like it is now.
    OEM-SLP does not activate online...
    The Win8 laptop I bought was not activated the first day I used it. So I had to go online.
    It's not one that uses OEM-SLP then?...

    Key is in the BIOS:
    HP Insyde BIOS doesn't show any product keys only serial of pc model and number.
    The BIOS knows the preinstalled OS is Win8 and from what I learned about laptop BIOSes is that a lot of stuff is hidden from the interface/user but the key is probably there (SLIC table).

    Correct me if I'm wrong:
    The way I see it, at least for HP laptops and Win8, is that you probably need to activate online (they just check that's you who activates) but the key is already preinstalled (BIOS slic maybe?). All works well but I still didn't made any recovery disks (I think that will work pretty well since I kept all factory partitions intact). If the recovery fails on DVD, will just try is on USB stick.
    From what I read with OA 2.1, that Windows 7 uses, it does not activate online. It looks like the new OA 3.0, that Windows 8 uses, does though. cluberti obviously knows a lot more about it than I do. Times they are a changing.
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  8. #18


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    Unfortunately . Thankfully Windows 8 media should universally detect the OEM hash, so if you've got legal reinstallation media from Microsoft, it shouldn't matter anymore.
    Unfortunately less steps to do if you keep it legal.
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  9. #19


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    True, very true. Haven't pirated Windows ever, for many reasons. One, I know what it's like to have code you spent time on stolen and used without compensation; two, I find theft of something in almost all scenarios to be bad karma; and three, I work for a large software company that sells the product I'd be pirating .
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  10. #20


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    From what I read with OA 2.1, that Windows 7 uses, it does not activate online. It looks like the new OA 3.0, that Windows 8 uses, does though. cluberti obviously knows a lot more about it than I do. Times they are a changing.
    Thanks for the detail (I now know it's called OA 3.0).
    I just tried to describe how it all went the first day of usage.
    The good news is that it went pretty well. The only time for long faces was when I compared the procedure with the one Win7 was using (OA 2.1).
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