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So, does the upgrade "really" need to have anything previously on HD?

  1. #41


    Posts : 38
    Windows7, 8 pretty soon


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Moodkiller View Post

    and then roofrider could you please explain this method??
    Install win8 normally, it wont' activate.
    Then do a fresh install win8 again over the existing win8 partition and u'll be fine.
    You can not install Windows 8 without entering the product key and if it is a upgrade key it won't install if it doesn't see a previous version on your system. This is not Windows 7 and the rules have changed.

    Jim
    It installs just fine if u enter the upgrade key during installation but u cant activate with it. Proof : Boxed copies of Windows 8 Pro do not work for clean installs - PC & Tech Authority
    That is the problem, MS needs to make everything clear before the purchase is made.
    They should not have the bloody clean install option in the upgrade version at all if u ask me.

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  2. #42


    Palm Coast FLorida
    Posts : 370
    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Yes, this is what I am looking for clarification on.

    Here is the reason I ask

    --Back in July of 2009, I built my computer and I bought a copy of Vista 64-bit Ultimate for it with a coupon for a free upgrade to Windows 7. But instead of ever using that vista copy, i was playing with the Windows 7 Release Candidate.
    --Then, I attended a Microsoft launch event called "The New Efficiency" and Microsoft handed out free copies of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit at that show.

    So, I used that "free" copy of Windows 7 Ultimate on my computer build from 2009.

    Meanwhile, I did receive my "free" upgrade to Windows 7 that I was entitled to for having purchased Vista so close to the rollout date for Windows 7. Both disks have simply sat on my shelf collecting dust.

    So, in theory I can buy an upgrade for Windows 8 Pro for $39.99 for this copy of Vista 64 that I bought...but is still in the shrink wrap and never used. So, I could leave my regular everyday Windows 7 machine as is, and potentially build a new computer and use Windows 8 upgrade on it from my Vista copy.
    I don't think so, when you go to upgrade for $39.99, the upgrade advisor needs to see a valid copy of windows installed, once it see's it you can then download the iso and get the key for windows 8 pro. Once you have the .iso, burn it to a disc and you are ready to go, you can install the iso and use the key any way you like, of course keeping in mind it is good for installing on just one computer, not multiple computers.
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  3. #43


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post

    Install win8 normally, it wont' activate.
    Then do a fresh install win8 again over the existing win8 partition and u'll be fine.
    You can not install Windows 8 without entering the product key and if it is a upgrade key it won't install if it doesn't see a previous version on your system. This is not Windows 7 and the rules have changed.

    Jim
    It installs just fine if u enter the upgrade key during installation but u cant activate with it. Proof : Boxed copies of Windows 8 Pro do not work for clean installs - PC & Tech Authority
    That is the problem, MS needs to make everything clear before the purchase is made.
    They should not have the bloody clean install option in the upgrade version at all if u ask me.
    Well the testing has begun. I see the upgrade will install but fail activation, but in that article they never said if they got it to activate and how. Until some one does the double install we won't know if that will work for the activation. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Jim
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  4. #44


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    Windows7, 8 pretty soon


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Well the testing has begun. I see the upgrade will install but fail activation, but in that article they never said if they got it to activate and how. Until some one does the double install we won't know if that will work for the activation. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Jim
    It's in the comments, 2nd comment by scottoe.
    I also read it works in the microsoft forums.
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  5. #45


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    First - you can install without entering the product key - very easily - but I don't feel disposed to broadcast how that is done.

    Second - I am certain you can install and activate onto a blank drive -I don't have one to test atm.
    I am certain of it because MS will know your drive may fail and you may need to do exactly that.
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  6. #46


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Well the testing has begun. I see the upgrade will install but fail activation, but in that article they never said if they got it to activate and how. Until some one does the double install we won't know if that will work for the activation. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Jim
    It's in the comments, 2nd comment by scottoe.
    I also read it works in the microsoft forums.
    Thanks, My Ghostery addon was blocking the comments. All the write ups prior to launch said it could not be done that way but I am glad it works.

    Jim
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  7. #47


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    Windows7, 8 pretty soon


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Second - I am certain you can install and activate onto a blank drive -I don't have one to test atm.
    I am certain of it because MS will know your drive may fail and you may need to do exactly that.
    It's not hassle free, will need to do the phone activation and there was a case where the Phone Activation Technician (or whatever he's called) declined the request as the upgrades and not meant to be used for clean installs. But a customer support guy later activated it.
    Can be done, but it's not straightforward.
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  8. #48


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    First - you can install without entering the product key - very easily - but I don't feel disposed to broadcast how that is done.

    Second - I am certain you can install and activate onto a blank drive -I don't have one to test atm.
    I am certain of it because MS will know your drive may fail and you may need to do exactly that.
    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Second - I am certain you can install and activate onto a blank drive -I don't have one to test atm.
    I am certain of it because MS will know your drive may fail and you may need to do exactly that.
    It's not hassle free, will need to do the phone activation and there was a case where the Phone Activation Technician (or whatever he's called) declined the request as the upgrades and not meant to be used for clean installs. But a customer support guy later activated it.
    Can be done, but it's not straightforward.
    Yeah it won't be hassle free. Seems you need to either load your old OS, or load the 90 day enterprise eval first and then upgrade again from that.

    I would most likely just use an image instead of actually loading the OS, but I know that regular users won't have this option.
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  9. #49


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    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Second - I am certain you can install and activate onto a blank drive -I don't have one to test atm.
    I am certain of it because MS will know your drive may fail and you may need to do exactly that.
    It's not hassle free, will need to do the phone activation and there was a case where the Phone Activation Technician (or whatever he's called) declined the request as the upgrades and not meant to be used for clean installs. But a customer support guy later activated it.
    Can be done, but it's not straightforward.
    I thought you said you could use the double install and it would activate. Now you say you have to sweet talk MS.

    Jim
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  10. #50


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    Windows7, 8 pretty soon


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    I thought you said you could use the double install and it would activate. Now you say you have to sweet talk MS.

    Jim
    Speaking to MS is not have to, it's just another option.
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