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So, does the upgrade "really" need to have anything previously on HD?

  1. #101


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe View Post
    The install process proceeded normally and completed the installation without being activated, no problem, just a small regedit change and a restart and it was now activated.
    Yes, you did the registry change which fools it into activating without being an "upgrade"

    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe View Post
    edit: there was NO operating system installed on the new SSD.
    Yes, because you did the registry editing trick. That is the way around NOT having an OS installed on the SSD drive.
    Don't knock it 'til ya try it.

    Peace...

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  2. #102


    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe View Post
    The install process proceeded normally and completed the installation without being activated, no problem, just a small regedit change and a restart and it was now activated.
    Yes, you did the registry change which fools it into activating without being an "upgrade"

    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe View Post
    edit: there was NO operating system installed on the new SSD.
    Yes, because you did the registry editing trick. That is the way around NOT having an OS installed on the SSD drive.
    Don't knock it 'til ya try it.

    Peace...
    I am not knocking you, just explaining why it worked.
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  3. #103


    Well, I guess you have the answer to your initial question, eh?
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  4. #104


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    Windows7, 8 pretty soon


    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe View Post
    Well, I guess you have the answer to your initial question, eh?
    Someone in the previous page said a win8 Refresh or some feature helped with activation, wonder if what it does is similar to a double install.
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  5. #105


    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe View Post
    Well, I guess you have the answer to your initial question, eh?
    Someone in the previous page said a win8 Refresh or some feature helped with activation, wonder if what it does is similar to a double install.
    That is what I suspect. The second laptop that I installed the Win 8 Pro upgrade on had a new HDD with the ONLY ever installed operating system of Win 8 evaluation copy present. The install was incomplete, I rebooted with the Win 8 upgrade disk made from the ISO and, it installed and was automatically activated.

    Since the Win 8 eval copy does not qualify as an operating system eligible to upgrade from, I thought the second install on this machine may have seen enough of the first partial install of Win 8 for it to qualify as a previously required Windows OS. That leads me to assume that a double install of Win 8 may work the same as it did with Win 7.

    Anyone willing to try it? I'm running out of laptops...
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  6. #106


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    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe
    Since the Win 8 eval copy does not qualify as an operating system eligible to upgrade from, I thought the second install on this machine may have seen enough of the first partial install of Win 8 for it to qualify as a previously required Windows OS. That leads me to assume that a double install of Win 8 may work the same as it did with Win 7.

    It may work, but does not make it legal; as you would have NO original software.
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  7. #107


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe
    Since the Win 8 eval copy does not qualify as an operating system eligible to upgrade from, I thought the second install on this machine may have seen enough of the first partial install of Win 8 for it to qualify as a previously required Windows OS. That leads me to assume that a double install of Win 8 may work the same as it did with Win 7.

    It may work, but does not make it legal; as you would have NO original software.
    Did you read my earlier posts? For every installation of Windows 8 Pro that I have made, regardless of the method, I have retired a qualifying copy of a Windows operating system. I don't see the need to install an old copy of XP on a new HDD just to do the upgrade to Windows 8 Pro. The registry tweek does not make what I do illegal. I still have some no longer used copies of old Windows operating systems, but I'm out of laptops to upgrade. Guess I'll have to use Dell OptiPlex 780s for my last 2 upgrades.
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  8. #108


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    Windows7, 8 pretty soon


    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dlcampbe
    Since the Win 8 eval copy does not qualify as an operating system eligible to upgrade from, I thought the second install on this machine may have seen enough of the first partial install of Win 8 for it to qualify as a previously required Windows OS. That leads me to assume that a double install of Win 8 may work the same as it did with Win 7.

    It may work, but does not make it legal; as you would have NO original software.
    win8 rp, cp and dp qualify Upgrade to Windows 8 with only a product key - Microsoft Windows
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  9. #109


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    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post
    That's only to be able to run the downloaded upgrade to upgrade from those, and not to actually be able to download the upgrade from a qualifying OS (XP SP3, Vista, or Windows 7)

    See: Terms and Conditions - Microsoft Windows


    Just to help clarify.


    Yes, you could upgrade from the "Windows 8 Release Preview" with the upgrade copy of Windows 8 since you can do a clean or ugrade install with the upgrade copy of Windows 8. You might as well do a clean install though since nothing from the "Windows 8 Release Preview" will be kept other than in the Windows.old folder.

    However, you can only run the "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant" from within the XP SP3, Vista, or Windows 7 that you are upgrading from to be able to purchase and download the Windows 8 ISO first.

    Plus, you need to follow the EULA and not have the qualifying OS (XP SP3, Vista, or Windows 7) installed while the upgrade Windows 8 is installed. "Windows 8 Release Preview" is not a qualifying OS for the upgrade.


    To comply with the EULA and be legal:

    No qualifying OS to upgrade from = need to buy retail "system builder" copy of Windows 8

    Want to keep both qualifying OS and Windows 8 installed = need to buy retail "system builder" copy of Windows 8

    Want to replace your qualifying OS with Windows 8 = you can use "Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant" to purchase a upgrade copy of Windows 8
    Last edited by Brink; 16 Nov 2012 at 17:52.
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  10. #110


    Thanks Brink,

    I also was relying on this statement, "Microsoft makes it clear that the 90-day evaluation is a dead end. "It is not possible to upgrade the evaluation to a licensed working version of Windows 8," the company says on the website that details the trial. "A clean installation is required."

    I was only using the 90 day evaluation copy installed on new HDDs, no previous Windows software installed. I do, however, have more than one old Windows OS disk left over from computers that were changed to a linux distro.
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