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Win 8 AMD Switchable Graphics FAQ

  1. #231


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


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  2. #232


    VA USA
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    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center


    No high speed available today .

    btw I'd still like to know where that guy found that specific card listing with that driver? I mean how did he get the other cards information when only 2 cards show on that driver download page.

    It had to be on some page, if not than he just wrote them in, or copied the info as is.
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  3. #233


    VA USA
    Posts : 349
    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center


    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    ***How to add Windows Media Center to Windows 8 free of charge***

    [* Offer valid from October 26, 2012, until January 31, 2013, and is limited to five licenses per customer per promotion.]


    Follow the link below and instructions to get your free copy of Windows Media Center for Windows 8:

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    yeah I have mine also good thing is with 8 Pro you don't need to download it, its already in there, all you need to do is enter the key they send you to activate it. kinda reminds me of the way Nero does stuff.
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  4. #234


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    Windows 8 Pro 32 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post

    where you get your drivers?
    because i checked the HP website and there's only 64 bit drivers for your notebook

    I'm sorry for any confusion surrounding this matter. I have a HP Pavilion DV6T Intel Quad i7 Core Entertainment Edition Custom Built To Order (CTO) model laptop PC. My system is running the X64 bit version of Windows. I really don't have any idea of where you would find x32 bit drivers if not on the HP Support site.

    I'm sure they would have built some CTO model PCs that match your own model. They change the model number with each successive generation of each model. The custom built (CTO ) models are those models which consumer get to choose exactly what goes into them. Even if the off the self models are only built with x64 bit versions of Windows, you still might be able to find a custom built model that has x32 bit support on the HP web site.

    I'm sorry I can't be more helpful to you than that. It's just that I didn't know that pc manufacturers where even still building desktop replacement laptops with x32 bit operating systems installed. The maximum RAM you can install on an x32 bit system is about half that of what you can add to a x64 system.


    The following is a fairly comprehensive link to a list of HP G6-2xxxxsl model PCs:

    HP Pavilion g6-2200 Notebook PC series*-* Download drivers and software - specify product name - HP Business Support Center

    If you are gong to find a system like yours that was built with a x32 bit OS and x32 hardware, it should be in this above list. I'd start with the models that end in CTO first.
    In fact... I just found a CTO model support page that matches your own PC. It also has support for X32 bit version of Windows 8

    HP Pavilion g6-2200 Notebook PC series*-* Download drivers and software - HP Business Support Center

    If there are drivers to support your hardware in a Windows 8 x32 bit environment, you should be able to find it among these various HP G6-22xxsl Model PCs.

    This might be exactly what you need:

    HP Pavilion g6-2200 Notebook PC series - AMD High-Definition (HD) Graphics Driver - HP Business Support Center
    yup, thanks. i'll try it
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  5. #235


    Posts : 4
    Windows 7, Windows 8


    Hi folks - I've been trying to upgrade my HP Pavilion dv6-3114sa bought in December 2010 to Windows 8 but have got completely stuck with the graphics drivers. The machine is all AMD with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 and 5470 graphics. Under Windows 7 this works fine and switches between the low and high power hardware as needed. In Windows 7 the 2 devices are named as follows:
    AMD M880G with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470

    I have tried the following:
    - Clean Windows 8 Install
    - Clean Windows 8 plus 12.10 catalyst drivers from AMD website (installs a driver for the 5470 as '5000 series' but leaves the stock MS driver for the 4250 ('4000 series')
    - Leshcat driver
    - 12.6 'legacy' driver from AMD
    - All the above with Windows 8 upgraded from a fully working Windows 7

    Based on all this I seem to be stuck, I just can't get a working setup for my hardware which is hugely frustrating on a machine less than 2 years old - very cross with HP (and ATI/AMD and Microsoft for that matter as pre-upgrade no issues were flagged).

    So you guys are my last hope before quitting and re-installing Windows 7 - I hope someone out there can help me!

    thanks in advance,
    Andi
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  6. #236


    Posts : 7
    Windows 8 32 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by codenamexxi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post

    yup, i've tried to clean install, but i only have the old windows 7 drivers, so the problem still exist.

    "UnifL Drivers are designed for Windows 7 x64 / Windows 8 x64 only, however they should work on Windows Server 2008 as well."
    Hi! I'm new to this forum... So hi to all and sorry for my bad english (I'm italian).

    Even I prefer a x86 version of Windows. I've read online multiple tests to compare 32 and 64 bit speed... 32 is faster than 64 bit for home use...

    To reply to the post:
    1) I've installed a clean version of Windows 8 32 bit on my HP G6-2212sl (Core i5-3210m, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and AMD 7670m)
    2) I've installed all the drivers except video drivers
    3) I've installed latest Intel drivers for my system (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...adType=Drivers)
    4) I've restarted my PC
    5) I've installed ATI Catalyst Mobility 12.10
    6) I've restarted my PC
    7) I can use the option to switch the gpu...

    The only thing is that i've to scroll horizontally the menu of "configure switchable graphics" to set the options for a program.

    I've installed DirectX and tested Dolphin emulator with the 2 options to see which graphics Dolphin used with OpenGL (and the switch worked for me).

    After, I've tested the switchable graphics with Unigine Heaven 3...
    With the option to use Intel HD and DirectX 11, 11 fps.
    With the ATI and DirectX 11, 21 fps.

    The switchable graphics worked for me, but I don't know if the performance is the highest I can have...
    where you get your drivers?
    because i checked the HP website and there's only 64 bit drivers for your notebook
    Even if the site list the drivers for Windows 8 64 bit, the drivers are also for 32 bit!!! Except Graphics Drivers -.-
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  7. #237


    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Quote Originally Posted by HOODY View Post
    No high speed available today .

    btw I'd still like to know where that guy found that specific card listing with that driver? I mean how did he get the other cards information when only 2 cards show on that driver download page.

    It had to be on some page, if not than he just wrote them in, or copied the info as is.

    You're not an IT Pro, are you? Most drivers, especially graphics drivers are designed to work in either x32 and x64 environments. The drivers setup checks your systems configuration and determines which environment your hardware is running in and installs the appropriate driver for that environment. Most of us test things by installing them to see if they work like I tested the Leshcat stuff on two different occasions. Most of HP's drivers are specifically designed to work with specific hardware and if the install setup determines your configuration is not compatible, the setup process won't allow you to proceed with the installation.

    I don't really know how he knew, but I would assume that he had reports of it working with other HP Graphics card model users hardware. That type of end-user feedback is exactly how how Leshcat is able to determine what his driver package works with and what it doesn't.

    Fixed Mode graphics were replaced by Dynamic Mode graphics. Fixed Mode allows user to manually switch between GPU's depending on their performance needs. There is nothing automatic about Fixed Mode graphics. However, Dynamic Mode graphics is automated and automatically switches between GPUs depending on your systems performance clock. When you need better quality and performance the system uses the AMD graphics, which is much less efficient as it uses more power and operates at higher temperatures. That's why you need HP Coolsense to monitor and control system temperature while overclocking your system's graphics. Your Intel graphics is a function of you i5/i7 core CPU. I has both audio and graphics built-in to its architecture.

    It's high efficiency comes as a trade off for sacrificing performance over efficiency. That's why you need the AMD hardware for those times when you require performance over efficiency. They are suppose to work in tandem with one another. It's like how turbo boost on your processor is there to be used only when you need it to conserve power and resources. You don't need your AMD running @ 100 percent 100% of the time, so running your AMD graphics in Fixed Mode doesn't make much sense unless you're gaming.

    The answer to your question is short, there is much more contained within the HP Driver setup that is actually installed on your computer. The Setup only installs what if anything is available for your particular systems hardware configuration, which is determined by the setup EXE, after doing a quick scan of your hardware configuration at the beginning of the install process. If its scan determines your configuration is not compatible, the setup should end at the point with an error message or a message notifying you that the setup is not compatible with your configuration.

    Beta driver development doesn't not require those type of safe guards, so they cannot be digitally signed. The digital signature indicates the engineered product is stable and is safe to install.
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  8. #238


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Quote Originally Posted by codenamexxi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by codenamexxi View Post

    Hi! I'm new to this forum... So hi to all and sorry for my bad english (I'm italian).

    Even I prefer a x86 version of Windows. I've read online multiple tests to compare 32 and 64 bit speed... 32 is faster than 64 bit for home use...

    To reply to the post:
    1) I've installed a clean version of Windows 8 32 bit on my HP G6-2212sl (Core i5-3210m, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and AMD 7670m)
    2) I've installed all the drivers except video drivers
    3) I've installed latest Intel drivers for my system (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...adType=Drivers)
    4) I've restarted my PC
    5) I've installed ATI Catalyst Mobility 12.10
    6) I've restarted my PC
    7) I can use the option to switch the gpu...

    The only thing is that i've to scroll horizontally the menu of "configure switchable graphics" to set the options for a program.

    I've installed DirectX and tested Dolphin emulator with the 2 options to see which graphics Dolphin used with OpenGL (and the switch worked for me).

    After, I've tested the switchable graphics with Unigine Heaven 3...
    With the option to use Intel HD and DirectX 11, 11 fps.
    With the ATI and DirectX 11, 21 fps.

    The switchable graphics worked for me, but I don't know if the performance is the highest I can have...
    where you get your drivers?
    because i checked the HP website and there's only 64 bit drivers for your notebook
    Even if the site list the drivers for Windows 8 64 bit, the drivers are also for 32 bit!!! Except Graphics Drivers -.-
    Yes, The driver setup contains both x32 and x64 drivers. The setup determines which of the two driver versions you need and installs only that one. however, if you look in the AMD folder after install, you'll see x64 bit files are there also. They are not installed to your System32 folder.
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  9. #239


    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Quote Originally Posted by andi View Post
    Hi folks - I've been trying to upgrade my HP Pavilion dv6-3114sa bought in December 2010 to Windows 8 but have got completely stuck with the graphics drivers. The machine is all AMD with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 and 5470 graphics. Under Windows 7 this works fine and switches between the low and high power hardware as needed. In Windows 7 the 2 devices are named as follows:
    AMD M880G with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470

    I have tried the following:
    - Clean Windows 8 Install
    - Clean Windows 8 plus 12.10 catalyst drivers from AMD website (installs a driver for the 5470 as '5000 series' but leaves the stock MS driver for the 4250 ('4000 series')
    - Leshcat driver
    - 12.6 'legacy' driver from AMD
    - All the above with Windows 8 upgraded from a fully working Windows 7

    Based on all this I seem to be stuck, I just can't get a working setup for my hardware which is hugely frustrating on a machine less than 2 years old - very cross with HP (and ATI/AMD and Microsoft for that matter as pre-upgrade no issues were flagged).

    So you guys are my last hope before quitting and re-installing Windows 7 - I hope someone out there can help me!

    thanks in advance,
    Andi
    It sounds like you should be shopping for drivers at the AMD support web site. This discussion only addresses the issue of ATI/Intel Hybrid switchable graphics users. You said your other system has both Intel i5 core CPU and ATI Radeon graphics, but you never mentioned that the system in question has both. If you only have ATI graphics you need to check the AMD site. They have Beta drivers that might address your problem.

    You might be able to find what you are looking for here:

    AMD Catalyst 12.8 (8.982.0 July 27) AMD Official WHQL - Guru3D.com Forums
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  10. #240


    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HOODY View Post
    No high speed available today .

    btw I'd still like to know where that guy found that specific card listing with that driver? I mean how did he get the other cards information when only 2 cards show on that driver download page.

    It had to be on some page, if not than he just wrote them in, or copied the info as is.

    You're not an IT Pro, are you? Most drivers, especially graphics drivers are designed to work in either x32 and x64 environments. The drivers setup checks your systems configuration and determines which environment your hardware is running in and installs the appropriate driver for that environment. Most of us test things by installing them to see if they work like I tested the Leshcat stuff on two different occasions. Most of HP's drivers are specifically designed to work with specific hardware and if the install setup determines your configuration is not compatible, the setup process won't allow you to proceed with the installation.

    I don't really know how he knew, but I would assume that he had reports of it working with other HP Graphics card model users hardware. That type of end-user feedback is exactly how how Leshcat is able to determine what his driver package works with and what it doesn't.

    Fixed Mode graphics were replaced by Dynamic Mode graphics. Fixed Mode allows user to manually switch between GPU's depending on their performance needs. There is nothing automatic about Fixed Mode graphics. However, Dynamic Mode graphics is automated and automatically switches between GPUs depending on your systems performance clock. When you need better quality and performance the system uses the AMD graphics, which is much less efficient as it uses more power and operates at higher temperatures. That's why you need HP Coolsense to monitor and control system temperature while overclocking your system's graphics. Your Intel graphics is a function of you i5/i7 core CPU. I has both audio and graphics built-in to its architecture.

    It's high efficiency comes as a trade off for sacrificing performance over efficiency. That's why you need the AMD hardware for those times when you require performance over efficiency. They are suppose to work in tandem with one another. It's like how turbo boost on your processor is there to be used only when you need it to conserve power and resources. You don't need your AMD running @ 100 percent 100% of the time, so running your AMD graphics in Fixed Mode doesn't make much sense unless you're gaming.

    The answer to your question is short, there is much more contained within the HP Driver setup that is actually installed on your computer. The Setup only installs what if anything is available for your particular systems hardware configuration, which is determined by the setup EXE, after doing a quick scan of your hardware configuration at the beginning of the install process. If its scan determines your configuration is not compatible, the setup should end at the point with an error message or a message notifying you that the setup is not compatible with your configuration.

    Beta driver development doesn't not require those type of safe guards, so they cannot be digitally signed. The digital signature indicates the engineered product is stable and is safe to install.

    I already installed the HP update and both my AMD and Intel graphics are working as they should:

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