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Win 8 AMD Switchable Graphics FAQ

  1. #201


    VA USA
    Posts : 349
    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center


    [QUOTE=MKeezy;140389][QUOTE=HOODY;140276]
    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post

    I've actually already been in contact with HP regarding the issue. According to what I was told. This issue only effects PC models that were sold before The official Release of Windows 8 with the old new Intel 2nd Gen chipsets. They never intended for the those PC owners to upgrade to Windows 8 due to the fact that they were built with the minimum graphics requirement (1366 x 768 native res) necessary to run Windows 8.

    Only pcs with the 2nd and 3rd Gen Intel chipsets can run Windows 8 so far. They have no plans to release a fix for this issue as of yet. However, I was told I should hold off on upgrading until a fix for the issue is made available. In other words.... Don't call us, well call you if we decide to address that problem. They're busy developing drivers for their newer model PCs that were sold just before the official release of Windows 8. As of now.... Nothing sold before July of 2012 will receive Windows 8 support.

    That said, our hope lies with Leshcat finding a resolution to the problem. You system appears to be one of the current HP models. However, I don't understand why they didn't build your system using NVidia graphics, with which is what all the newer model are being built. The new integrated 3 Gen Intel graphics are capable of much higher resolution and the same is true of the new discrete NVidia GPUs. They both far exceed the minimum graphics resolution required to efficiently run windows 8.

    If you ask me.... This is HP's and many other PC manufacturers way of sticking it to Microsoft for cutting them out of the profits Microsoft will be receiving from the sale of the new Microsoft Surface tech. It seems Microsoft has taken a queue from Apple and are trying to control it's newest technology from conception to market. This is evidenced by Microsoft practically giving away their newest OS at only $39 a pop. However, all the major PC manufacturers have ensured that only their most recent builds will be able to run it. If you want Windows 8, you have to by a new and very recently built system.


    How that for making sure they can maintain their customer base? My next PC will be a MS surface tablet. I'm so sick of HP's ever worsening customer service and support. The new BIG BOY MS Surface Pro combined with Xbox Live will be all I'll need for business and gaming.


    Jez yeah I made up my mind to go with Gforce the week after I got this thing and setup a buddy's ACER with a Gforce, and how easy it was to just download the latest NVIDIA driver, made me sick.

    Oh well, like you I just boiught this POS in July, I though because it has the Intel 3000 and this BS 7690m xt that was hyped as such a "great" gaming card, that it would have been considered "new" and supported. lessons learned. But I don't consider it a total loss, as I had 2 desktops one with XP and one with Vista, I gave the XP one to my buddy to use his high speed lol, I still have the Vista, so in time this laptop will take the place of that, even if I have to stay with W7, at least my scanner and printer and external modem work on it. OH Juno dialup sent me a email that even it was W8 compatable lololol, hows that for "old" support.


    I got email from AMD asking my opnion of their support lolol. sent them this.......

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I'm STILL waiting for AMD to produce a driver for my 7690m xt gpu. I'm STILL waiting for AMD to "support" my 7690m xt via the automatic driver tool, or listed as a "supported" card.

    I have this HP dv7t-6c00 with this idiotic switchable setup a Radeon 7690m xt and Intel 3000 that is just driving me nuts trying to get one or the other to "support" their hardware with proper and up to date drivers.

    Please "support" my "Radeon 7690m xt" and list it as "supportable" on your driver download page. We that have these switchable units need to be able to download and install the drivers for the hardware installed from "that" maker. And Intel isn't much better.
    NVIDIA drivers ARE down loadable directly from NVIDIA for the Gforce gpu's I have first hand experience with that setting up a friends laptop, but MY system with this AMD Radeon/Intel insane mixture is leaving users like myself out in the cold.
    And depending on the "manufacturer" for driver support is slim to "none", (as HP in my case),but than again they are only the worker bees putting "parts" together, NOT actually making the parts, but making sure they place YOUR PART's red sticker plainly on the front of this laptop.

    I have no issue with the hardware (7690m xt) but you really need to "support" anything with "YOUR" Brand name to keep your Co. business in good standing with the consumer of your products.

    I've gone about as far as a run of the mill consumer out here can go with my complaint on this and do not expect any better answer than I have already heard from the AMD rep "Marc" on this issue, but to keep me and others as AMD customers, you best look into this driver issue for these laptops with switchable gpu/apu. The least that could be done is make YOUR AMD driver down loadable and installable as it is updated, regardless of what Intel does, and code it to work independent of any intel apu so as not to conflict with the usual settings.

    Thanks for reading.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    It may be beating a dead horse, but I plan to put in a "good" word anytime I can from now on or till this ghets settled. And yeah Leshcat is one avenue, but I don't see that that's the right way to go when this is just some guy doing what he want's and can quit anytime, than what?. No these damned "makers" of their products need to step up and solve the problems they created.

    I'll keep checkig out Leshcat blog for some answers though.

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  2. #202


    Posts : 7
    Windows 8 32 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post

    i need AMD-signed intel drivers for 32 bit, because HP only provide 64 bit drivers.

    i have used the old windows 7 drivers. the switchable graphics is works. but screen goes blink when i open metro apps or Office 2013. so i tried to update the intel driver to .2867, the screen doesn't blink anymore, but switchable graphics is not working anymore

    please help
    sorry for bad english

    Have you tried a clean install of your graphics drivers? You can use software, such as Diver Fusion to remove all previous instances of your currently install graphics drivers and start from there with a clean install of your ne drivers.

    However, the only solution to the switchable graphics not working issue, right now, is the Leashcat "catalyst_12.xx_beta_unifl" driver sets. The Leshcat solution is in no way considered a fix for the problem as it is still in its Beta testing phase. It is at best a work around for the problem. The Leshcat drivers are not intended to work with every system that has hybrid or switchable graphics.

    Visit the Leshcat Project site for more information:

    Catalyst 12.8 WHQL UnifL for ATi+Intel Graphics ← leshcatlabs.net
    yup, i've tried to clean install, but i only have the old windows 7 drivers, so the problem still exist.

    "UnifL Drivers are designed for Windows 7 x64 / Windows 8 x64 only, however they should work on Windows Server 2008 as well."
    Hi! I'm new to this forum... So hi to all and sorry for my bad english (I'm italian).

    Even I prefer a x86 version of Windows. I've read online multiple tests to compare 32 and 64 bit speed... 32 is faster than 64 bit for home use...

    To reply to the post:
    1) I've installed a clean version of Windows 8 32 bit on my HP G6-2212sl (Core i5-3210m, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and AMD 7670m)
    2) I've installed all the drivers except video drivers
    3) I've installed latest Intel drivers for my system (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...adType=Drivers)
    4) I've restarted my PC
    5) I've installed ATI Catalyst Mobility 12.10
    6) I've restarted my PC
    7) I can use the option to switch the gpu...

    The only thing is that i've to scroll horizontally the menu of "configure switchable graphics" to set the options for a program.

    I've installed DirectX and tested Dolphin emulator with the 2 options to see which graphics Dolphin used with OpenGL (and the switch worked for me).

    After, I've tested the switchable graphics with Unigine Heaven 3...
    With the option to use Intel HD and DirectX 11, 11 fps.
    With the ATI and DirectX 11, 21 fps.

    The switchable graphics worked for me, but I don't know if the performance is the highest I can have...
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  3. #203


    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Update:

    I had to rollback the Leshcat changes I made to my system yesterday. Due to a persistent problem with no longer being able to receive Windows Updates after installing the Leshcat stuff. The install process modifies files that are necessary for your Microsoft's Update Service to work properly. I'm not sure if this particular "MS Update Service Not Working" issue is known to happen with every install or for everyone, but my update file became corrupted and I could no longer receive Windows updates.

    I'm just going to wait on an Offical AMD/Intel switchable graphics release, regardless of who actually releases it. There will be NO more Beta stuff for me at this point.

    I just don't have the time to try to troubleshoot and correct bugs like that.


    Just a little heads up for everyone thinking about trying out he Leshcat Beta software....
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  4. #204


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Update:

    I had to rollback the Leshcat changes I made to my system yesterday. Due to a persistent problem with no longer being able to receive Windows Updates after installing the Leshcat stuff. The install process modifies files that are necessary for your Microsoft's Update Service to work properly. I'm not sure if this particular "MS Update Service Not Working" issue is known to happen with every install or for everyone, but my update file became corrupted and I could no longer receive Windows updates.

    I'm just going to wait on an Offical AMD/Intel switchable graphics release, regardless of who actually releases it. There will be NO more Beta stuff for me at this point.

    I just don't have the time to try to troubleshoot and correct bugs like that.


    Just a little heads up for everyone thinking about trying out he Leshcat Beta software....
    I've used Leschat's 12.9 and 12.10 and never had any issues with WIndows Update. Actually, they have worked great for me. I have an HP Envy 17t-3000.
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  5. #205


    VA USA
    Posts : 349
    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center


    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Update:

    I had to rollback the Leshcat changes I made to my system yesterday. Due to a persistent problem with no longer being able to receive Windows Updates after installing the Leshcat stuff. The install process modifies files that are necessary for your Microsoft's Update Service to work properly. I'm not sure if this particular "MS Update Service Not Working" issue is known to happen with every install or for everyone, but my update file became corrupted and I could no longer receive Windows updates.

    I'm just going to wait on an Offical AMD/Intel switchable graphics release, regardless of who actually releases it. There will be NO more Beta stuff for me at this point.

    I just don't have the time to try to troubleshoot and correct bugs like that.


    Just a little heads up for everyone thinking about trying out he Leshcat Beta software....


    damn homes I can figure why your more pissed at this than I am, smirks, sorry about all that s@#t. So I assume that the watermark thing isn't an issue now.

    I guess just complaining and not messing with my OEM installed Nov 2011 driver was a better idea, I dono......But I'm also at the end of my rope spending time and effort on all the emais, I'm going to sit back myself for another month and see how far this goes.

    I try to keep up on what AMD is doing with this Enduro crap, and am waiting for actual "support" even if its just recognizing this G#$ Damned 7690m xt. The Driver tool from AMD says my hardware/software isn't supported. Or maybe even the dirtbags at HP driver support will decide to drop one on us.

    If nothing else I guess I'll just try that HP one listed at Notebook review IF/When I decide to go with W8 and nothing has changed for the better, at least that one is supposed to be for this 7690m xt.

    Thanks for yet another pongee trap to look out for. But if that was something that occurred more frequently I would think that there would be a lot more out cry on leshcats blog, I haven't seen that mentioned at all, so who knows, I guess anything is possible with this stuff.
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  6. #206


    hello, anybody knows if the New AMD 12.11 BETA 6, works for the ati redeon hd 7690m xt?
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  7. #207


    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Quote Originally Posted by HOODY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Update:

    I had to rollback the Leshcat changes I made to my system yesterday. Due to a persistent problem with no longer being able to receive Windows Updates after installing the Leshcat stuff. The install process modifies files that are necessary for your Microsoft's Update Service to work properly. I'm not sure if this particular "MS Update Service Not Working" issue is known to happen with every install or for everyone, but my update file became corrupted and I could no longer receive Windows updates.

    I'm just going to wait on an Offical AMD/Intel switchable graphics release, regardless of who actually releases it. There will be NO more Beta stuff for me at this point.

    I just don't have the time to try to troubleshoot and correct bugs like that.


    Just a little heads up for everyone thinking about trying out he Leshcat Beta software....


    damn homes I can figure why your more pissed at this than I am, smirks, sorry about all that s@#t. So I assume that the watermark thing isn't an issue now.

    I guess just complaining and not messing with my OEM installed Nov 2011 driver was a better idea, I dono......But I'm also at the end of my rope spending time and effort on all the emais, I'm going to sit back myself for another month and see how far this goes.

    I try to keep up on what AMD is doing with this Enduro crap, and am waiting for actual "support" even if its just recognizing this G#$ Damned 7690m xt. The Driver tool from AMD says my hardware/software isn't supported. Or maybe even the dirtbags at HP driver support will decide to drop one on us.

    If nothing else I guess I'll just try that HP one listed at Notebook review IF/When I decide to go with W8 and nothing has changed for the better, at least that one is supposed to be for this 7690m xt.

    Thanks for yet another pongee trap to look out for. But if that was something that occurred more frequently I would think that there would be a lot more out cry on leshcats blog, I haven't seen that mentioned at all, so who knows, I guess anything is possible with this stuff.
    No... The watermark is no longer an issue, since I uninstalled all the Leshcat stuff. I have come across some issue with update files being corrupted as a result of the install process. Apparently, it does happen. I probably could have taken some time to correct the problem, but I figured I'd be better off just rolling back the changes and wait on an official solution to be released. I'm running an official retail release copy of Windows 8 pro with no issues, other than being unable to use switchable graphics and my AMD GPU showing a (code 43) error in the device manager.

    However, I'm still able to use Wireless Display, Photoshop, Adobe Light room, and MS Expressions. All of those programs can be somewhat taxing on a GPU and my Intel graphics alone seems to be standing up to the challenge. I've got a desktop that's connected to one of my flat screen TVs via HDMI if I need more power. I just graduated with a degree in IT and I tend to enjoy troubleshooting issues from time to time. I just don't have the time to try to get everything working perfectly as nothing is ever good enough for me. I'd spend all my spare time on a issues like those, if given the chance. I just don't have the time right now.

    Good luck to all of you getting your switchable graphics working again. I'm thinking it might be time for a new Ultrabook anyway. Let me know how things go in that open discussion with HP about what their intentions are regarding this issue.
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  8. #208


    Posts : 8
    Windows 8 Pro 32 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by codenamexxi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post


    Have you tried a clean install of your graphics drivers? You can use software, such as Diver Fusion to remove all previous instances of your currently install graphics drivers and start from there with a clean install of your ne drivers.

    However, the only solution to the switchable graphics not working issue, right now, is the Leashcat "catalyst_12.xx_beta_unifl" driver sets. The Leshcat solution is in no way considered a fix for the problem as it is still in its Beta testing phase. It is at best a work around for the problem. The Leshcat drivers are not intended to work with every system that has hybrid or switchable graphics.

    Visit the Leshcat Project site for more information:

    Catalyst 12.8 WHQL UnifL for ATi+Intel Graphics ← leshcatlabs.net
    yup, i've tried to clean install, but i only have the old windows 7 drivers, so the problem still exist.

    "UnifL Drivers are designed for Windows 7 x64 / Windows 8 x64 only, however they should work on Windows Server 2008 as well."
    Hi! I'm new to this forum... So hi to all and sorry for my bad english (I'm italian).

    Even I prefer a x86 version of Windows. I've read online multiple tests to compare 32 and 64 bit speed... 32 is faster than 64 bit for home use...

    To reply to the post:
    1) I've installed a clean version of Windows 8 32 bit on my HP G6-2212sl (Core i5-3210m, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and AMD 7670m)
    2) I've installed all the drivers except video drivers
    3) I've installed latest Intel drivers for my system (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...adType=Drivers)
    4) I've restarted my PC
    5) I've installed ATI Catalyst Mobility 12.10
    6) I've restarted my PC
    7) I can use the option to switch the gpu...

    The only thing is that i've to scroll horizontally the menu of "configure switchable graphics" to set the options for a program.

    I've installed DirectX and tested Dolphin emulator with the 2 options to see which graphics Dolphin used with OpenGL (and the switch worked for me).

    After, I've tested the switchable graphics with Unigine Heaven 3...
    With the option to use Intel HD and DirectX 11, 11 fps.
    With the ATI and DirectX 11, 21 fps.

    The switchable graphics worked for me, but I don't know if the performance is the highest I can have...
    where you get your drivers?
    because i checked the HP website and there's only 64 bit drivers for your notebook
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  9. #209


    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by codenamexxi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post

    yup, i've tried to clean install, but i only have the old windows 7 drivers, so the problem still exist.

    "UnifL Drivers are designed for Windows 7 x64 / Windows 8 x64 only, however they should work on Windows Server 2008 as well."
    Hi! I'm new to this forum... So hi to all and sorry for my bad english (I'm italian).

    Even I prefer a x86 version of Windows. I've read online multiple tests to compare 32 and 64 bit speed... 32 is faster than 64 bit for home use...

    To reply to the post:
    1) I've installed a clean version of Windows 8 32 bit on my HP G6-2212sl (Core i5-3210m, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and AMD 7670m)
    2) I've installed all the drivers except video drivers
    3) I've installed latest Intel drivers for my system (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...adType=Drivers)
    4) I've restarted my PC
    5) I've installed ATI Catalyst Mobility 12.10
    6) I've restarted my PC
    7) I can use the option to switch the gpu...

    The only thing is that i've to scroll horizontally the menu of "configure switchable graphics" to set the options for a program.

    I've installed DirectX and tested Dolphin emulator with the 2 options to see which graphics Dolphin used with OpenGL (and the switch worked for me).

    After, I've tested the switchable graphics with Unigine Heaven 3...
    With the option to use Intel HD and DirectX 11, 11 fps.
    With the ATI and DirectX 11, 21 fps.

    The switchable graphics worked for me, but I don't know if the performance is the highest I can have...
    where you get your drivers?
    because i checked the HP website and there's only 64 bit drivers for your notebook

    I'm sorry for any confusion surrounding this matter. I have a HP Pavilion DV6T Intel Quad i7 Core Entertainment Edition Custom Built To Order (CTO) model laptop PC. My system is running the X64 bit version of Windows. I really don't have any idea of where you would find x32 bit drivers if not on the HP Support site.

    I'm sure they would have built some CTO model PCs that match your own model. They change the model number with each successive generation of each model. The custom built (CTO ) models are those models which consumer get to choose exactly what goes into them. Even if the off the self models are only built with x64 bit versions of Windows, you still might be able to find a custom built model that has x32 bit support on the HP web site.

    I'm sorry I can't be more helpful to you than that. It's just that I didn't know that pc manufacturers where even still building desktop replacement laptops with x32 bit operating systems installed. The maximum RAM you can install on an x32 bit system is about half that of what you can add to a x64 system.


    The following is a fairly comprehensive link to a list of HP G6-2xxxxsl model PCs:

    HP Pavilion g6-2200 Notebook PC series - Download drivers and software - specify product name - HP Business Support Center

    If you are gong to find a system like yours that was built with a x32 bit OS and x32 hardware, it should be in this above list. I'd start with the models that end in CTO first.
    Last edited by MKeezy; 12 Nov 2012 at 10:04.
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  10. #210


    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 2013 Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600.16408


    Quote Originally Posted by MKeezy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caesarnovaldy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by codenamexxi View Post

    Hi! I'm new to this forum... So hi to all and sorry for my bad english (I'm italian).

    Even I prefer a x86 version of Windows. I've read online multiple tests to compare 32 and 64 bit speed... 32 is faster than 64 bit for home use...

    To reply to the post:
    1) I've installed a clean version of Windows 8 32 bit on my HP G6-2212sl (Core i5-3210m, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and AMD 7670m)
    2) I've installed all the drivers except video drivers
    3) I've installed latest Intel drivers for my system (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...adType=Drivers)
    4) I've restarted my PC
    5) I've installed ATI Catalyst Mobility 12.10
    6) I've restarted my PC
    7) I can use the option to switch the gpu...

    The only thing is that i've to scroll horizontally the menu of "configure switchable graphics" to set the options for a program.

    I've installed DirectX and tested Dolphin emulator with the 2 options to see which graphics Dolphin used with OpenGL (and the switch worked for me).

    After, I've tested the switchable graphics with Unigine Heaven 3...
    With the option to use Intel HD and DirectX 11, 11 fps.
    With the ATI and DirectX 11, 21 fps.

    The switchable graphics worked for me, but I don't know if the performance is the highest I can have...
    where you get your drivers?
    because i checked the HP website and there's only 64 bit drivers for your notebook

    I'm sorry for any confusion surrounding this matter. I have a HP Pavilion DV6T Intel Quad i7 Core Entertainment Edition Custom Built To Order (CTO) model laptop PC. My system is running the X64 bit version of Windows. I really don't have any idea of where you would find x32 bit drivers if not on the HP Support site.

    I'm sure they would have built some CTO model PCs that match your own model. They change the model number with each successive generation of each model. The custom built (CTO ) models are those models which consumer get to choose exactly what goes into them. Even if the off the self models are only built with x64 bit versions of Windows, you still might be able to find a custom built model that has x32 bit support on the HP web site.

    I'm sorry I can't be more helpful to you than that. It's just that I didn't know that pc manufacturers where even still building desktop replacement laptops with x32 bit operating systems installed. The maximum RAM you can install on an x32 bit system is about half that of what you can add to a x64 system.


    The following is a fairly comprehensive link to a list of HP G6-2xxxxsl model PCs:

    HP Pavilion g6-2200 Notebook PC series*-* Download drivers and software - specify product name - HP Business Support Center

    If you are gong to find a system like yours that was built with a x32 bit OS and x32 hardware, it should be in this above list. I'd start with the models that end in CTO first.
    In fact... I just found a CTO model support page that matches your own PC. It also has support for X32 bit version of Windows 8

    HP Pavilion g6-2200 Notebook PC series*-* Download drivers and software - HP Business Support Center

    If there are drivers to support your hardware in a Windows 8 x32 bit environment, you should be able to find it among these various HP G6-22xxsl Model PCs.

    This might be exactly what you need:

    http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/biz...em=ob-111918-1
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