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    Graphic Cards and Monitors


    I currently have a Samsung 27 inch monitor which has a refresh rate of about 60 Htz. I wanted to upgrade my graphics card from a Geforce GTX 650 to a GeForce GTX 760 Gaming 2GB PhysX. A workmate told me that there would be no difference in quality as my monitor could only handle 60 fps so the graphic card would act the same as the old one. Basically I confused! Do I need to upgrade my monitor to a 144 Htz screen just to play a game?

    Any help will be appreciated
    Thanks in advance
    Alan

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    No, do not even need to probably upgrade your card to play some games. This all matters which games you will play, most of new games are pretty demanding not just from the video card and it's specs and how much RAM it has but also from systems CPU,RAM and Hard drive. Basically with higher refresh rate in games the images that move across the screen fast will look sharper with no blur in the picture, think FPS rely on cards specs also.

    Did you compare each card, 760 has 256bit compared to 650 at 128 bit, definitely be better for performance in games with 760.
    Specifications | GeForce
    GeForce GTX 760 | Specifications | GeForce

    I made a similar switch like this and notice the 650 worked harder, fan ran faster then the newer Higher memory clock and bit rate dual fan card that it did in intense games. So there is advantages because specs are better, other factors matter too.

    Pretty much best thing it is going to do for you is 760 will perform better in games then 650 would, true not going to notice a big difference in picture quality, it won't work as hard. Otherwise as said does take other factors with system too. Yes 144mhz if your a big gamer is better bet. I would choose EVGA over MSI, my opinion of brands. Not in sweden though this place, idea of manufacturer.
    EVGA 02G-P4-2763-KR G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support w/ EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card - Newegg.com


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    Thanks for replying, the CPU is a AMD FX 6300 Black Edition and I have 12 gig of RAM. I have already ordered the graphic card so hopefully Crysis 3 will run a little smoother. I dont fancy splashing out on a super screen as I only play single player and certainly not to be classed as a big gamer.
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    This is one of those things where people frequently get confused.

    First off, the whole 60Hz thing is pretty much universal to all LCD panels, because it refers to something that doesn't apply to LCD panels. All those TVs you see advertising 120Hz or higher are just basically blowing smoke, using a lot of really funny math to get those numbers.

    Hz, or Hertz, refers to how many times a second a screen is repainted. This only applied to old CRT monitors and TVs where you had an electron gun going back and forth "painting" the screen. With LCD monitors the go-to statistic is RESPONSE rate, NOT refresh rate. Response rate is how fast any given pixel can go from white to black or the other way around. Above about 16ms, you can see some ghosting on games, but pretty much any monitor made in the last 6-7 years, if not longer, will have a response rate in the single digits.

    The next thing to note is that refresh and/or response rate is NOT the same thing as fps. Not sure where that idiotic idea got started, but it's complete and total BS from start to finish, plain and simple. You could have 500fps on a 60Hz display, no problem. Of course there's one other very important thing to factor in, which is the part of your brain that processes visual information from your brain. In the average person, it works out to roughly 72fps being the saturation point. So unless you have exceptionally good eyesight, even by the standards of fighter pilots, everything after 72fps will have a rapidly diminishing impact on your perception of the smoothness of the animation. The whole "I got XXXfps!" thing is little more than an e-penis measuring exercise for gamers. Put another way, most movies run at a framerate of 23fps and "live" TV is more like 29.97fps. Do you notice any particular issues with the illusion of motion there? No? Then why are you worrying so much about a game?

    One thing that CAN artificially limit your fps is v-sync. This forces the video card to operate at the speed of the monitor. This eliminates screen tearing: those ugly jagged lines that run diagonally across the screen. nVidia and AMD have now developed adaptive v-sync features in some of their newer cards, which SHOULD give you the best of both worlds, minus some small overhead of course. Of course IMO, v-sync gets a bad rap. So what if it limits the FPS of your game? As long as what you're getting is smooth animation, don't worry about the rest. It doesn't mean that your video card doesn't then have plenty in reserve to maintain a steady 60fps or whatever, which is frankly a lot more important than being able to hit a peak FPS of something in the triple digits. Unless you live somewhere where it doesn't snow, so you can't prove your manliness by writing your long complex name in the snow after only one large glass of water.
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    Thanks asvent for the detailed reply.
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    Think you will be fine with Crysis 3. Always check game requirements before you purchase them. That processor is good. All in all you will get better performance from newer card, might not be so noticeable to the eyes, but way it will handle certain games. Thanks Asvent i was never too familiar or knowledgeable with FPS.
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    Think you will be fine with Crysis 3. Always check game requirements before you purchase them. That processor is good. All in all you will get better performance from newer card, might not be so noticeable to the eyes, but way it will handle certain games. Thanks Asvent i was never too familiar or knowledgeable with FPS.
    Try Batman origins or any of Batman games there good also.
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    Well got the new card and not so sure if it is any better. The only thing I am sure about is that I am 1900 SEK lighter.
    Thanks for all the input.
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