I love embedded Oem keys

[theog]

The Dell DVD is for use with the Dell machine. If the Dell machine was purchased with Pro, then the Dell Machine is Pro compliant. If the Acers were purchased with Standard that mean they are Standard compliant. Installing Pro on the Acers which are compliant with Standard only is illegal. Unless you purchase upgrade license for each Acers (to be Pro compliant) you cannot install Pro onto them.

Embedded or not it is a license nonetheless. If your Acers are licensed for Standard (embedded or not) they are licences for Standard. If you install Pro on a Standard licenced machine you doing it illegally.

If you haven't done so, go get the Acers compliant with Pro otherwise remove Pro from them.

Windows Vista
Basic,Home Premium, Vista Business.
Genuine Microsoft Windows DVD's need to install all x32 version, one

Windows 7
Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate,
Genuine Microsoft Windows DVD's need to install all x32 version, five.

Windows 8
Core, Professional, Pro Pack.
Genuine Microsoft Windows DVD's need to install all x32 version, one.

 

[pparks1]

Where can you get a Dell DVD that are has both Standard and Pro on it? I like to get this.

There is no such thing as a standard version of the install DVD and the pro version. It is exactly the same. It is the license on the computer, it the key you input (only if you don't have an embedded key) that determines the version you get.

Same is true of all media types. Go to TechNet and try to download just the standard DVD or just the pro DVD. You won't find them individually, they are the SAME. You simply pick either the standard or the pro key and that is what you get.

 

[pparks1]

Embedded or not it is a license nonetheless. If your Acers are licensed for Standard (embedded or not) they are licences for Standard. If you install Pro on a Standard licenced machine you doing it illegally.

If you haven't done so, go get the Acers compliant with Pro otherwise remove Pro from them.

Yes, when the OS loads it never asks for a key. It gives you exactly what it is licensed for...and as we have said over and over and over again, that is Windows 8 standard on the Acer's.

However, since I needed features from pro, I clicked on the link to get a different version of Windows from the Acer running 8 standard. From there, I paid $99 for the pro pack. That legally moved me from 8 standard to 8 pro.

So, the Acer's came from the factory with 8 standard. No matter what Windows 8 disc I use, I ONLY get 8 standard when I install. From there I have to provide a legit pro pack key to get to Windows 8 pro.

I cannot state this any more clearly.

 

[pparks1]

The only way to get 8 Pro on my laptop is to install core and then use the add features option to enter the Pro key.

What happen with you put in Pro DVD and install from it? It won't install?

It will install. However, what it will install depends upon which key is in your BIOS. It will not fail to install.

If you happen to have a custom built computer, it will stop and ask for you to enter your key. If you put in the 8 standard key, you would get that. If you put in a pro key, then obviously you will get pro.

 

[jaebberwock]

OMG, so this is what talking to a brick wall is like. I admire everyone's patience. I think I felt my blood pressure rise a few notches just from reading this thread.

 

[HippsieGypsie]

Someone let me get this straight > I put the lime in the coconut and call you in the morning?

So what I'm reading is that instead of having multiple discs for each edition, they've simplified it by having one disc and whatever key you have installs the proper edition that one purchased. Therefore, it is deciphered by the key. Yes?

 

[pparks1]

Yes, that is the gist.

But with OEM editions in the past, if you installed with the reinstall media, they wouldn't activate and you would have to call the 1-800 number and go through the phone activation process. This took a solid 5-10 minutes to complete.

With Windows 8, you don't have any of that activation non-sense either. It simply activates based on the key in your BIOS.

 

[HippsieGypsie]

Thanks, Patrick. :thumbup:

This is nifty stuff. I can see where would be quite handy and time-saving if one worked IT upgrading multiple machines.

I bought 8 Pro System Builders edition to dual boot with 7. When I was loading 8 I had to enter the key for I don't have UEFI BIOS, however, it did activate by itself.

I'm retiring soon and plan on building a rig. I'll keep 7 on the old rig and move 8 to the new one. The new motherboard will have a UEFI BIOS chip on it. The embedded key will come in handy.

 

[alphanumeric]

Just so you know, a motherboard having UEFI BIOS doesn't mean it also has an embedded key. Only prebuilt OEM systems have the embedded key. If you buy a motherboard from Newegg for example it won't have the embedded key even if it does have UEFI BIOS.

 

[jimbo45]

Someone let me get this straight > I put the lime in the coconut and call you in the morning?

So what I'm reading is that instead of having multiple discs for each edition, they've simplified it by having one disc and whatever key you have installs the proper edition that one purchased. Therefore, it is deciphered by the key. Yes?

Hi there
What's so difficult about understanding this --- even with W7 you could get ONE iso and by inputting the relevant key it would install the version you've paid for.

Pparks1 is 100% correct in what he's doing and it is quite LEGAL -- he's not trying to avoid paying for any license or use unlicensed copies of windows. It's 100% CLEAR -- can't understand the confusion.

(This method AFAIK doesn't apply or won't work with Enterprise or VL editions - other activation methods are required here -- but I could be wrong on this one though).

I have other concerns about embedded keys but that's not what this thread is about.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[SIW2]

It is the same with Vista. All consumer editions are on the install dvd. If you like, you can add your own editions - updated, modified, whatever.

 

[aem]

Like i said before, the Dell DVD that comes with Dell machine is a non distributable DVD which would pass as a restore media used to get your Dell machine back to factory settings. This DVD version is different to a retail version.

If the Dell DVD is what i just stated how is it legal to use on a non Dell machine? This is not to say it won't work.

 

[SIW2]

I think the point is - you can use any install media - as long as you also use your own purchased key. The key might be in the bios (oem preinstall ), or it may be one you enter yourself.

The media shouldn't matter. ( Tho it is possible the oem may have put something in there which could cause a problem on a non Dell machine - unattend settings or similar - however according to Pp , that doesn't seem to be the case).

 

[pparks1]

Like i said before, the Dell DVD that comes with Dell machine is a non distributable DVD which would pass as a restore media used to get your Dell machine back to factory settings. This DVD version is different to a retail version.

If the Dell DVD is what i just stated how is it legal to use on a non Dell machine? This is not to say it won't work.

You make the assertion that the disc is different. Perhaps it's just the exact same set of files given to Dell, HP, Acer, etc. The companies just put them on their stamped logo media.

can you please tell me what can be audited in the machine to indicate the wrong media was used? When Microsoft comes to audit me, how are they going to prove my illegal actions and misuse of my install media.

 

[alphanumeric]

Like i said before, the Dell DVD that comes with Dell machine is a non distributable DVD which would pass as a restore media used to get your Dell machine back to factory settings. This DVD version is different to a retail version.

If the Dell DVD is what i just stated how is it legal to use on a non Dell machine? This is not to say it won't work.

PParks can confirm this ( I think he already did in his other post). It's not a recovery disk/restore disk. It doesn't reimage the PC to factory condition. It's regular install media with a Dell logo on it. If it was recovery media it would not work on the Acers.

 

[pparks1]

Like i said before, the Dell DVD that comes with Dell machine is a non distributable DVD which would pass as a restore media used to get your Dell machine back to factory settings. This DVD version is different to a retail version.

If the Dell DVD is what i just stated how is it legal to use on a non Dell machine? This is not to say it won't work.

PParks can confirm this ( I think he already did in his other post). It's not a recovery disk/restore disk. It doesn't reimage the PC to factory condition. It's regular install media with a Dell logo on it. If it was recovery media it would not work on the Acers.

Yes, it is not recovery media.

I think the concern here is a hold out from the old days where the Dell media would activate without providing a key or using a key from the bios. You were told that you could only use this Dell media on a Dell, and unless the disc was actually used on a Dell, it would not work. (Unless you hacked your box).

These days there is a big change and it renders this old concern as a non concern.

 

[alphanumeric]

Like i said before, the Dell DVD that comes with Dell machine is a non distributable DVD which would pass as a restore media used to get your Dell machine back to factory settings. This DVD version is different to a retail version.

If the Dell DVD is what i just stated how is it legal to use on a non Dell machine? This is not to say it won't work.

PParks can confirm this ( I think he already did in his other post). It's not a recovery disk/restore disk. It doesn't reimage the PC to factory condition. It's regular install media with a Dell logo on it. If it was recovery media it would not work on the Acers.

Yes, it is not recovery media.

I think the concern here is a hold out from the old days where the Dell media would activate without providing a key or using a key from the bios. You were told that you could only use this Dell media on a Dell, and unless the disc was actually used on a Dell, it would not work. (Unless you hacked your box).

These days there is a big change and it renders this old concern as a non concern.

Exactly, that's the point I have been trying to make. With the old OEM-SLP activation each brand had their own SLP and the install media was modified for their brand specifically. Every Dell used the same SLP key. Also like you said the Dell OEM disk wouldn't work on another manufacturers PC. It's all different now. Each OEM PC has its own key and all install media know how to read it. It you hadn't have mentioned that your Disk had a Dell logo on this we would not have had this conversation. There "may" be some custom branding on the disk that adds Dell Logos to the system screen etc but it has no effect on activation and legality of the system. It may also just be a plain jain Windows 8 DVD with a Dell Logo silk screened on it. Anyway, the simple fact is the PC's all used and activated with their legal embedded product codes. The embedded codes are the equivalent of a COA sticker so all PC's are legal.

 

[aem]

Like i said before, the Dell DVD that comes with Dell machine is a non distributable DVD which would pass as a restore media used to get your Dell machine back to factory settings. This DVD version is different to a retail version.

If the Dell DVD is what i just stated how is it legal to use on a non Dell machine? This is not to say it won't work.

You make the assertion that the disc is different. Perhaps it's just the exact same set of files given to Dell, HP, Acer, etc. The companies just put them on their stamped logo media.

can you please tell me what can be audited in the machine to indicate the wrong media was used? When Microsoft comes to audit me, how are they going to prove my illegal actions and misuse of my install media.

I am referring to the words off the DVD itself. Assuming the DVD is the resinstallation DVD.

http://www.ibuy-soft.com/UploadFile/201210204241040054.jpg

If you reinstall using this media directly or indirectly (copy to USB) onto a non Dell machine wouldn't it be a violation of copyright laws?

I'm not saying you aren't a lawfull biding citizen and if you are you would not condone such actions and express it especially on a public forum like this.

As for audit, i think you can get away with it provided you have your HP DVDs or simply a legit license.

 

[theog]

Like i said before, the Dell DVD that comes with Dell machine is a non distributable DVD which would pass as a restore media used to get your Dell machine back to factory settings. This DVD version is different to a retail version.

If the Dell DVD is what i just stated how is it legal to use on a non Dell machine? This is not to say it won't work.

PParks can confirm this ( I think he already did in his other post). It's not a recovery disk/restore disk. It doesn't reimage the PC to factory condition. It's regular install media with a Dell logo on it. If it was recovery media it would not work on the Acers.

Yes, it is not recovery media.

I think the concern here is a hold out from the old days where the Dell media would activate without providing a key or using a key from the bios. You were told that you could only use this Dell media on a Dell, and unless the disc was actually used on a Dell, it would not work. (Unless you hacked your box).

These days there is a big change and it renders this old concern as a non concern.

Using the Dell or Fujitsu Windows 8 install DVD on any Dell or Fujitsu PC, after install, there will be no CrapWare & missing drivers.
And will not be back to factory condition.

 

[aem]

If its not a reinstallation DVD, it must be a retail version??? Does it say on it not to make illegal copies be it on another DVD or other media??