I believe Win 8 is going to be another Windows Vista

[Bo Jangles]

I was SO ready to downgrade my first day or two with Win8. Now, a week or two later, I love it! Every day I find new features that makes switching back to Windows 7 seem like a loss of functionality.

Could you list some of the new features you have found most useful?

Well, I'd already known about the improved security, which is always good, (so long as it doesn't impede the user's experience too much,) but I'm also really liking the tool ribbons in Explorer, mounting ISO files easily, & the updated Task Manager is far more advanced. Overall, there's lots of polish on this OS that gives an experience more like what we imagine when we think about the computers of the future.

So, yeah, it takes a bit of getting used to, but once you do, it's better than any Windows that came before it.

 

[gazz9496]

OK People! I'm tired of this, HERE is what your going to do! Proceed to your local computer superstore and purchase Logitech Touchpad T650! CompUSA.com | 910-003057 | Logitech Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad T650 It's only $80.00 US, now your non-touch monitor WILL be touch. Problem solved. You get the best of both worlds now.

oo that's quote nice.

i'm no avid supporter of touch i find it somewhat crap to use.

windows 8 while better with touch is usable with a mouse and keyboard, but metro still sucks in functionality which they need to change.

 

[gazz9496]

I was SO ready to downgrade my first day or two with Win8. Now, a week or two later, I love it! Every day I find new features that makes switching back to Windows 7 seem like a loss of functionality.

Could you list some of the new features you have found most useful?

Well, I'd already known about the improved security, which is always good, (so long as it doesn't impede the user's experience too much,) but I'm also really liking the tool ribbons in Explorer, mounting ISO files easily, & the updated Task Manager is far more advanced. Overall, there's lots of polish on this OS that gives an experience more like what we imagine when we think about the computers of the future.

So, yeah, it takes a bit of getting used to, but once you do, it's better than any Windows that came before it.

tiss true, windows 8 does have some amazing features and providing you can get used to it quickly is a great o/s.

friend of mine got windows 8, he does like it but he's running 3 monitors in eyefinity so his metro is at 5760x1080 across all 3 screens believe me when i say this looks nasty, not metro's fault either but just the problem and the sole reason i hate metro's lack of options to resize and open on different screens.

if microsoft fix that aspect of metro then hands down it will be far superior to the start menu, and will make metro far more enjoyable to use in many different scenario's even for their surface owners who want to plug into an additional screen/projector.

 

[Mustang]

Forum Membership Numbers

On Nov 9th, and now on Dec 15th, these were the figures for forum membership numbers.

Nov 9th. Windows7Forums: 231,818 ........ Windows8Forums: 10,722

Dec 14th: Windows7Forums: 233,204 ...... Windows8Forums: 13,594


On Nov 9th, based on Windows 7 having been on the market approximately 3 years, and assuming W7F gained no new members, W8F would need to have averaged 6,141 new members/month, for 36 consecutive months, to equal the W7F forum level reached after being released 3 years.

In the past 9 weeks, W8F has only increased 2,872 new members. In that period it needed 7,085 new members. So it's actually fallen behind another 4,213 new members needed in that period.

Add to that, W7F in the same period gained 1,386 new members. And that = 48.25% of the gain of W8.

Not bad for a so called out dated, slow, boring OS released over three years ago; as compared to the New Future OS with so many super duper features, ease of use, yadda, yadda, yadda .... Hmmmmm?

 

[mbratch]

I was SO ready to downgrade my first day or two with Win8. Now, a week or two later, I love it! Every day I find new features that makes switching back to Windows 7 seem like a loss of functionality.

Could you list some of the new features you have found most useful?

Well, I'd already known about the improved security, which is always good, (so long as it doesn't impede the user's experience too much,) but I'm also really liking the tool ribbons in Explorer, mounting ISO files easily, & the updated Task Manager is far more advanced. Overall, there's lots of polish on this OS that gives an experience more like what we imagine when we think about the computers of the future.

So, yeah, it takes a bit of getting used to, but once you do, it's better than any Windows that came before it.

Interesting. I liked those new features, too. They could have easily been part of a Windows 7 service pack. The ribbon, for example, was already part of Office 2010 programs (much to the dismay of users who couldn't find their favorite commands any more, without much warning). But none of that is Metro related (I tend to think of the Metro and Metro app design as the centerpiece of Windows 8, which distinguishes it most from its predecessors).

 

[Ray8]

Exactly. They aspects are part of the OS core, not the Modern interface. It's the interface that is drawing the criticism, not the OS itself.

 

[Bo Jangles]

Exactly. They aspects are part of the OS core, not the Modern interface. It's the interface that is drawing the criticism, not the OS itself.

Actually, it's Metro I was referring to when I spoke of "polish" on the ui; that, & the little tricks like how one can double-click on the vertical arrows when hovering above the top border to vertical-maximize a window, a prime example.

 

[labeeman]

My thoughts on windoze 8 the system is much improved over 7 BUT the metro ui is pure trash because it is not sizable and full screen only. I will not be pushing it but pushing Win7.

 

[Tepid]

If all you are basing this on is the GUI and it's size, then you are doing everyone a disservice.

 

[Chrono]

I wonder if some people even realize that there's a nice menu on the left side where you can choose multiple open apps, either by pointing the mouse in the top-left corner or by pressing Win+Tab. Now, what I do wish is that you could have one app take up half the screen while another app takes the other. As it is, one app takes up a sliver of space as you're trying to use them both. Wouldn't mind having the Desktop open on one side and an app on the other, but instead one window is so narrow, that it's basically useless.

 

[Ray8]

If all you are basing this on is the GUI and it's size, then you are doing everyone a disservice.

I don't believe so. Why is it that you can only have two apps open at any one time and the positioning is limited to effectively side by side, with varying degrees of width? Why can't you have more apps open and you decide how they are displayed, as you can do with the desktop, either in Windows 7 or 8? Why can't you move those apps then around on as many screens as you have and use them at the size that you've chosen?

The Modern interface is effectively a mobile phone interface, with the flexibility (or lack of) that it offers. I can understand Microsoft trying to unify the OS experience between devices, but why hobble everything to the device with smallest screen size? If that flexibility had been provided, the complaints about the Modern interface would be moot.

 

[HippsieGypsie]

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! You win!! [Why?] is the $One Million Dollar$ winner question today!! Tell you what...I'll trade you [Why?] for what's behind OS #9. Waddaya think? Is it a deal?

 

[Chrono]

Though some apps do go into some mini-mode when relegated to the narrow side, it's not always enough. An option to resize to half the screen would be nice.

 

[Ray8]

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! You win!! [Why?] is the $One Million Dollar$ winner question today!! Tell you what...I'll trade you [Why?] for what's behind OS #9. How do you like that? Is it a deal?

Why would Microsoft wait until Windows 9 to introduce such basic and desirable features? You only get one chance to make a first impression and Windows 8 should have slam dunked the opposition with this one, yet they apparently hesitated.

 

[Chrono]

Well, they may change things up with Blue, which will be out well before a 9, I assume.

 

[labeeman]

Thank you Ray8 I agree with you 100% Windows 7 is fine but Window 8 is a complete downgrade except for the kernel.

 

[labeeman]

The ui needs to be on the desktop not in a full screen window all by it self that
you constantly have to be switching to ( on a desktop or laptop).
So Windows 8 needs to be called Window 8.

 

[Mike Lonewolf]

Guys think about it... WHY would ALL of these Windows 8 forums be up and running? To add to that, wouldn't you think some nice program that will fix our complaints be GREAT? Would then sort of make Windows8 a PLUS! don't you think? *hint* *hint*

 

[Tepid]

Listen. I agree, Windows 8 is not perfect. And there are some missteps, but over all, they are not the end of the world.
Yes, Apps should run like normal Desktop Software and have re-sizable windows to provide true Multi-Tasking abilities.

Had they done that, i believe that Windows 8 would be an Android/Apple Killer. That's true.

But as with Vista, MS are taking a new approach to things. This is not a bad thing.
Live Tiles are great. Among other things.

I think too many people take the absolute Extreme side of things.

Instead of looking at a lot of the positives, they are just writing everything off all because they don't like the GUI,, that's well......

MS doens't want to lose the future to the likes of Apple and Android. So they are trying aomething new,, I think it's a great direction that needs quite a bit of tweaking. I think we will see those get fixed.

 

[gazz9496]

Well, they may change things up with Blue, which will be out well before a 9, I assume.

too late in my opinion, they should be working to add this now, not a year from now.

microsoft know fine well the metro ui is taking a huge amount of flak from users(just look at what they did...sacked the guy that forced the issue) but is all that abuse really focused to the problem they have with it? probably not.

it was only after thinking about it for some time that i came to the conclusion it wasn't metro i hated but the sheer lack of thought and flexibility that microsoft left out.

i don't mind the tiles/colours/layout.

as someone else points out you get one chance to grab people and they missed the mark, through lack of function instead of how it looks.

A customer came into my shop today trying desperatly to find a laptop that came shipped with windows 7 that met the spec he wanted, we struggled to find one. he gave me 20 min to show him around windows 8 and sell it to him for his workstation as soon as it came to the multiscreen discussion and how he likes to work windows 8 had no chance, he asked all the right questions anyone should and windows 8's metro ui can not do what he wanted.

he was sold easily on the rest of the o/s but not metro's lack of multiscreen support, and since i have these discussions here with all of you i knew how it would turn out.

sold him windows 7 with his windows 8 loaded laptop.