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Microsoft moving towards cloud based software and making hardware!

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    Microsoft moving towards cloud based software and making hardware!


    Beginning from Windows 8 Microsoft has begun moving towards cloud based software and making its own hardware. In an interview to the Seattle Times Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer indicated that Microsoft would move away from traditional software towards cloud based software delivery model as well as Microsoft would make their own hardware. Following are his related answer as well as the link:




    "Q: Where do you see Microsoft's position in five years, 10 years?


    A: First of all, I'd say: pre-eminent technology company. I think that in a back-looking view, people would say we were a software company. That's kind of how we were born.


    I think when you look forward, our core capability will be software, (but) you'll probably think of us more as a devices-and-services company. Which is a little different. Software powers devices and software powers these cloud services, but it's a different form of delivery....


    Doesn't mean we have to make every device. I don't want you to leap to that conclusion. We'll have partners who make devices with our software in it and our services built in. ... We're going to be a leader at that."




    Ballmer trumpets Microsoft's 'epic year' | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times






    That means a lot of drastic changes in Microsoft's policies which would impact us all. As far as I can think, according to my limited knowledge, there would be the following changes:




    1- Microsoft would slowly strip down Windows from being a full fledged operating system to a browser based (cloud based) operating system, just like Google's Chrome OS.


    Xbox, Not Windows, Is The Future Of Microsoft - Says Steve Ballmer


    2- Local storage based software, games would be replaced by cloud based software, games.


    (Microsoft has teamed up with Agawi, a cloud based gaming company which has adopted Microsoft’s Windows Azure cloud hosting to stream games to Windows 8 devices as well as upcoming Xbox 720.)


    Agawi to use Microsoft’s Windows Azure to bring cloud-gaming services to Windows 8 | VentureBeat


    Microsoft, Agawi Team Up For Cloud Gaming On Windows 8; Is Xbox 720 Next? - Forbes


    Windows 8 gets cloud gaming with Agawi partnership - National Console Gaming | Examiner.com


    3- Microsoft is planning to become a big hardware player like Apple. However it would keep its OEM partners with it. Divices with MS services would be sold.


    4- The biggest losers would be us. The consumers. Microsoft's cloud based model would put an end to our independence and we would be completely dependent on MS for everything. MS won't sell us the software, games etc. they would rent us their software, games etc.


    5- This would also be a huge loss to the enthusiasts who build their own PCs. As because of all the above there would only be compact devices available everywhere and there would no longer be a place for full fledged desktop or full fledged notebook PCs. So desktops and notebooks would vanish. Therefore the parts to build your own PCs would no longer be available in the market.




    All this could only change if some Linux distro successfully enters the market. As Valve/Steam are trying to port their games to Linux it could be a possibility. Also it would be a good omen for Microsoft;s OEM partners who must be desperate for an alternative to MS Windows and are fed up of MS policies.

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    I doubt Windows will go cloud based in entirety. Unless if other competitors do that, I don't see it happening. Granted, Windows is licensed whereas android or ios isn't, but this would only happen when EVERYONE and EVERY Windows user is connected to the internet 24/7. There's that hurdle. Also, the other hurdle is how can Windows work if you're in the mountains? I find interesting that no one is thinking about Windows Phone being cloud based. I just don't see it happening. Taking the base OS and not having it natively installed on the device is like a PC with cloud based BIOS, no go and no practicality.

    Office and Xbox games I do see being more cloud based. Office already is going there. Xbox games might be next.

    My question I ask is where's the practicality purpose? The only thing I see is for app developers to prevent piracy, but there are better methods that don't require app streaming.



    We'll see though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    My question I ask is where's the practicality purpose? The only thing I see is for app developers to prevent piracy, but there are better methods that don't require app streaming.
    Purpose: All users can be running on the same versions, that are updated, and security patched whenever MS deems it necessary. Users don't really need to lift a finger.
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    Hi Icet,

    I have been posting about this for a while.

    Plenty of things not to look forward to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    My question I ask is where's the practicality purpose? The only thing I see is for app developers to prevent piracy, but there are better methods that don't require app streaming.
    Purpose: All users can be running on the same versions, that are updated, and security patched whenever MS deems it necessary. Users don't really need to lift a finger.
    Doesn't Windows Update already cover all that? The only thing I see here is the availability of updates and the timing of them. You can run Windows 8 and have everything updated and patched up for that, then upgrade to Windows 9. I do see how that could be beneficial to just to have everyone hypothetically just upgrade EVERYONE on Windows 8 to 9 and not deal with people poop scooping it.

    But to say that a WHOLE software platform can be cloud based is just no. chrome OS hasn't kicked off anywhere at all. There is nothing to it that a phone can't do with the right apps.

    For apps running on the same version in unison, this already kind of done with Windows Store and Windows Phone Store and app store and android marketplace. They all update currently installed apps to the latest version when the user gives consent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I doubt Windows will go cloud based in entirety. Unless if other competitors do that, I don't see it happening. Granted, Windows is licensed whereas android or ios isn't, but this would only happen when EVERYONE and EVERY Windows user is connected to the internet 24/7. There's that hurdle. Also, the other hurdle is how can Windows work if you're in the mountains? I find interesting that no one is thinking about Windows Phone being cloud based. I just don't see it happening. Taking the base OS and not having it natively installed on the device is like a PC with cloud based BIOS, no go and no practicality.

    Office and Xbox games I do see being more cloud based. Office already is going there. Xbox games might be next.

    My question I ask is where's the practicality purpose? The only thing I see is for app developers to prevent piracy, but there are better methods that don't require app streaming.



    We'll see though...


    I wish and hope that you are right and that not all software and games move to the cloud. But it seems that MS may move to the cloud entirely. Also there should also be offline options for office and xbox games now and in the future. What you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Hi Icet,

    I have been posting about this for a while.

    Plenty of things not to look forward to.

    Hi SIW2,

    It seems you were correct. If all that happens then I think we would have no alternative except Linux.
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    Not going to the cloud.

    At all. Ever.

    And THAT'S non-negotiable.

    Push me to the cloud with no choice, and I WILL
    go elsewhere.....

    And that's non-negotiable as well....!!!

    Windows 8, I like. But the cloud, and pay-per-use
    subscription-based software?....NO WAY, Jose!

    NOT gonna happen here.....I'd give up computing
    as a hobby/interest first.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Doesn't Windows Update already cover all that?
    Well it does for the OS, and it does some for Office..BUT....
    1). Some people don't run updates.
    2). It won't move you from 1 major release to another. Say from Outlook 2010 to 2013
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    By default, Windows is set for automatic updates that covers IE, Office if installed, I think Windows Essentials, and Windows itself. And with Windows 8, updates literally don't feel like they happen because they're just that undetectable.

    But to move from one version of Office to the next, that might be a hurdle. Some don't like upgrading so much as the next would would be, and Officewould have to be on a subscription so the user would be more inclined to upgrade. Cost and profit is the road block.
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